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In Quicken 2007, I can create custom reports with categories and classes (229 Legacy Votes)
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Most likely marketing will call it Quicken 2019, but in fact Quicken is now on a subscription mode so "2018" and "2019" will "be the same".
Over time the "subscription Quicken" (which is what really is) will get the features as they are added.
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Ability to Include $0 (zero) Transactions in Reports.
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There was no desire to start over to build a new Quicken for Mac. There was a necessity to start over. If you've been a Mac user since ye olden days, you know that there was a pretty radical transformation of the Mac operating system in the change from the classic Mac OS (which terminated with Mac OS 9). Mac OS X in 2001 was a complete rebuild of the Mac operating system from the ground up, but Apple did a masterful job building compatibility with the older system so older applications could continue to run. Several years into the transition, Apple began telling developers that pieces of the old system would cease to be supported in the future, and some developers like Quicken faced the reality that they wouldn't be able to continue to make incremental updates to keep their programs running.
Just to give you one, non-technical example: Quicken 2007 and its predecessors create everything you see on the screen using a technology called QuickDraw, which dates back to the original Mac in 1984. It provides a way for a developer to say "draw a box here, a line there, put this text over there, etc." and control everything about the look of the screen, from fonts to colors to lines and images. In Mac OS X, screen imaging was completely re-engineered using a new graphics layer of code called Quartz, which handled fonts and drawing to the screen very differently. Quicken 2007 uses the old QuickDraw -- which Apple has remarkably kept working all this time, but which will finally no longer work in next year's macOS upgrade. For a program like Quicken, that means every screen and every report, has to be re-created using the newer underlying technologies.
And that's just one area of the program. The core database used in Quicken 2007 was custom-designed and has a number of known problems and limits. Mac OS X has a built-in modern, industry-standard database, which is faster, more robust, supports larger files and is rock-solid reliable -- but that means Quicken needed to re-program everything that is stored in and accessed from the database. The underlying way data is stored in memory in macOS X is different than the classic Mac OS, and it allows larger amounts of RAM, huge hard drives and fewer program crashes due to memory corruption. Networking to access the Internet is handled in Mac OS X is radically differently than the old Mac OS. These technology changes add up to an inescapable fact: Quicken's 1980s code base was going to have to be re-written to work on the Mac OS of the future.
When former owner Intuit began that project in 2006, no one expected Quicken 2007 would be able to be kept running for more than a decade; a combination of the good programming in Quicken, Apple moving more slowly than expected on retiring parts of the old operating system, some emergency tweaks and rather miraculous updates by Quicken engineers earlier this decade -- and just some old fashioned dumb luck -- have enabled us users to still be using Quicken 2007 on the latest macOS Mojave. But the key point is that it's been apparent for more than a decade that the day would come when the old code base would hit an impenetrable wall -- and Quicken needed to create something that would work when the old one no longer did. You said the change to the new Quicken is "negligent," but I would argue that if they hadn't developed a modern version of Quicken Mac for today and the decades ahead, that would have been negligent. You -- and all of us who have been still using Quicken 2007 -- have had the benefit of using this program for 13 years. That is a lifetime (or beyond) in the software world. I doubt there is other software you're using today which is virtually untouched from 13 years ago. (You mentioned security updates; you should be aware that Quicken 2007 is a discontinued product, and hasn't been getting any security upgrades for years.)
Yes, change can be painful and disruptive. In this case, Quicken 2019 has a number of things which are better than Quicken 2007, but also is missing some important features and functionality of Quicken 2007. The developers have been working over the past few years to re-code and build those desired older features into the modern Quicken Mac; they've made a lot of headway, but it's still very much a work in progress.
I believe the managers at Quicken understand very well that there's a portion of the Mac user base for which the current state of Quicken Mac doesn't measure up to needs and expectations. I believe they expected to be able to deliver more functionality in a shorter period of time, and are frustrated that there's still a lot of work to be done to make Quicken 2019 a fully viable successor to Quicken 2007. This isn't to say they because they're well-meaning, they get a pass -- but the reality is that they have only a certain number of programmers and can only deliver enhancements as quickly as they are able. The program is more complicated than many people give it credit for. I believe they do think they can narrow the feature gap considerably over the next year, so that by the time Quicken 2007 hits that impenetrable wall with the next macOS release, Quicken 2019 will be good enough for most longtime users.
Meanwhile, you do have other options. First, you can continue using Quicken 2007 for quite awhile into the future. You do not need to upgrade your Mac past whatever you're currently running, or past the current Mojave, just because Apple releases a new operating system next September -- Quicken 2007 will continue to run indefinitely on the operating systems it currently runs on. You might find some financial institutions no longer download transaction to Quicken 2007, but you can always enter transactions manually. That might buy you another year or two or three, to see how the new Quicken further matures. Or, of course, you can move to other personal finance software. Some people have been happy moving on to another product and never looked back, while other users have found that competing products don't measure up to all of Quicken's features; since we all use Quicken differently, your assessment for your needs will be different than mine for my needs, or someone else's for their needs.
Otherwise, this just detracts from the purpose of the IDEA thread.
Thanks for understanding.
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The only single way that I can find to see the value of something is by account totals. I can't figure how to get more granular. I added Tags to years of transactions (at great expense of time), so that I could select, say preferred shares or foreign shares but the only menu item that gives Values, rather than Transactions is Net Worth, and there the Tags are greyed out, so you can only get the total value of an account, nothing less.
And the entry above where the user says a Balance sheet is Net Worth on a given day - that is not exactly correct. It is always the current period PLUS the last period, sometimes even quarters.