Add Ability to Transfer Shares between Investment Accounts in Quicken for Mac (183 Legacy Votes)
smayer97
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Add function to be able to transfer shares from one investment account to another, while preserving cost basis, and any other necessary info, like in QWin.
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To do that, I suggest you read this FAQ on how to filter the IDEAS to just show the ones for the Mac version, then VOTE to your heart's content:
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- Restore Transactions Downloading Acceptance and Matching workflow
- Option to Have Debits and Credits Tallied Separately for Reconciliation Process
- Add ability to track/store Prior Reconciled Statements/periods
- Improve the Bill Reminders Graph (aka Forecast or Projected Balance)
- Add QuickMath functionality
- True multi-currency conversion support
- many requests for configuration options
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Enter a Remove Shares transaction in the old account - the total number of shares held.
Enter a Add Shares in the new account - a separate transaction for each lot.
The Add Shares dialog includes provision to enter the acquisition date and the
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Yes - manual entry.
Enter a Remove Shares transaction in the old account - one transaction for the total number of shares held.
Enter a Add Shares in the new account - a separate transaction for each lot.
The Add Shares dialog includes provision to enter the original acquisition date and the original cost of the lot.
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Really need that transfer shares feature, Quicken!
Will vote (again) for all of the related investment ideas, as mentioned above...
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So it's not moving the transactions, it's making a complete separate copy of all the transactions.
I end up with the securities' history recorded twice: once in the useless single-mutual-fund account, and once in the combined brokerage account representing the "real" account with the FI.
This gets me automatic download from the FI into the single-mutual-fund account, then I have to manually copy into the "real" account. That's quite bothersome but I've gotten used to it.
The real fix is for the lame FI to fix their back end to provide quicken downloads of all the mutual funds into a single quicken account, but I think they have no incentive or plans to do this, based on their lack of progress in several years.
If only the FI made web connect available, I could intercept the downloads and combine them using a script, but they only seem to have direct connect so I haven't found a way to intercept it...
ROI/IRR in Quicken for Mac 2018 and security history
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Effect of Adding Shares on IRR
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I am by no means a sophisticated investor.
That said, I try to make the best use of what little money I have.
I invest a little on my own and also have the assistance of a financial advisor.
In my brokerage accounts there are the occasional name changes, mergers, fractional payments, spin offs, cash swaps, and more.
Stocks are transferred between accounts.
Stocks are held in CAD and USD funds (my biggest peeve).
Quicken for Mac handles none of these situations.
Until there's meaningful change, I see no reason to upgrade to Quicken for Mac 2018.
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- Based on Security, move ALL transactions from one Account to another. This would include current positions, closed positions, dividends, return of capital, splits, etc. The advantage is that it would bring along all of your history for reporting, etc. But the drawback is that it does not quite match what is happening in the real world, if you are switching to a different brokerage or advisor. For example, if you want to look at the performance of your old advisor versus your new advisor, this would make it harder to see. Another disadvantage is that if you move all of the history to the new account, then you connect to the FI for that account, they will probably send down a bunch of Add Shares transactions and you will essentially have duplicate data that you will have to clean up
- Based on Security, automatically create a "Remove Shares" transaction for the entire position to remove the shares from the old account, and then create one or more "Add Shares" transactions in the new account. There would be one "Add Shares" for each open Lot, and it would accurately reflect the Acquisition Date (for Holding Period), as well as the correct cost basis for Capital Gains. All of the original Buys, Sells, Dividends, etc. would remain in the old account. You could then accurately report on either account individually, or on the combination of two or more accounts to look at the entire history. This more accurately reflects what happens in the real world when you transfer shares from one brokerage to another. It should also work correctly when you download transactions from both the old and the new FI. ***NOTE*** - Several people have reported errors in performance calculations and Capital Gains reporting for this Add/Remove scenario. We are analyzing those issues and plan to make sure any issues are addressed.
- Allow Drag-and-Drop of individual investment transactions, or a group of transactions. It is simply an automated version of deleting a transaction from one account and adding an equivalent transaction to the other account. This sounds nice, and flexible, but it could lead to significant issues. For example, if you have a Buy of 100 shares and a Sell of the same 100 shares, then you move the Buy to a different account, but leave the Sell in the original account, you will now have 100 shares in the new account, and a short position of -100 shares in the old account. It also could cause "interesting" issues if there are Placeholder transactions in the account. When you move the Buy transaction out of the old account, the Placeholder would be recalculated and essentially replace them in the old account. Another problem that comes up is handling shares that have already been sold using specific lot assignment. These relationships could get destroyed when individual transactions are moved around.
Let us know (in comments here) what you prefer and PLEASE try to explain WHY it works better for your situation.My preference is approach #2 for the reasons stated in the proposal.
The single most important criteria for Quicken is to not produce wrong answers. That's more important than speed, elegance, flashy GUI, or anything else. Don't give wrong answers. Approach #2 aligns best with this.
A Remove Shares from the old account and an Add Shares for each lot in the destination account which retain the Cost Basis info.
Prior history is retained in the old original account.
The old account continues to exactly match monthly statements.
As indicated, this reflects the "real world".
Option 2) duplicates how QWin handles moving holdings from one account to the other and it has worked very well for me when needed.
Option 1) does not reflect the "real world" and destroys the integrity of the old account in that it no longer matches up with prior statements.
Option 3 is interesting - but, as pointed out, it provides a golden opportunity for major problems if not carefully and properly executed. This is probably better left alone.
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