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Is Quicken for Mac 2017 64-bit? I also assume Quicken for Mac 2007 is 32-bit. Is that correct?

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  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017
    Yes
  • ErickErick Member ✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Is that YES to both questions?
  • George ChapmanGeorge Chapman Member ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Yes unfortunately. That is why I'm looking for a replacement for 2007. From these discussions it doesn't look like 2017 is any better than all the other lousy iterations of Quicken that have been pawned off on us since they released 2007 that worked with OS X. Let me know if anyone has found a workable substitute.
  • ErickErick Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    My Quicken for Mac 2007 has been working just fine and I am on Sierra.  But I understand High Sierra will require 64-bit applications.  I did try Quicken Essentials a few years back and it did not import all transactions correctly and did not do reports correctly.  I hope Quicken for Mac 2017 is OK.
  • George ChapmanGeorge Chapman Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    Yes 2007 works on Sierra but will not on High Sierra because High Sierra requires 64 bit programs. You would think in ten years Intuit or whoever Quicken is now would have had time to put together a program like 2007 that is 64 bit. Instead they take our money on these ridiculous substitutes that don't work. I went thru this back before Intuit finally fixed 2007 so it would wok on the Intel processor. I kept one computer on the older processor and tried a bunch of programs like Money and Mint etc. All Intuit would do is release Essentials which was no good. Finally after 18 months or so they released the fix for 2007 which has worked until now. I don't know who the Quicken owner is now but it looks like history is repeating and this time I'd like to get away from Quicken unless they can release a suitable program. These discussions sure don't sound like 2017 is that product.
  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017
    FYI - See https://kb.froglogic.com/display/KB/Article+-+Checking+whether+an+application+is+32-bit+or+64-bit for an article on seeing what apps you have that are 32bit vs 64bit. the app needs to be running to see it.
  • smayer97smayer97 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Erick said:

    My Quicken for Mac 2007 has been working just fine and I am on Sierra.  But I understand High Sierra will require 64-bit applications.  I did try Quicken Essentials a few years back and it did not import all transactions correctly and did not do reports correctly.  I hope Quicken for Mac 2017 is OK.

    QM2017 has improved reports but is still a LONG way off vs QM2007. 

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  • AlanAlan Member ✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Erick said:

    My Quicken for Mac 2007 has been working just fine and I am on Sierra.  But I understand High Sierra will require 64-bit applications.  I did try Quicken Essentials a few years back and it did not import all transactions correctly and did not do reports correctly.  I hope Quicken for Mac 2017 is OK.

    According to a number of websites, e.g.,

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/06/07/high-sierra-runs-on-all-sierra-capable-hardware-starts-pro...

    High Sierra will fully support 32 bit apps, but it will be the last OS to do so "without compromises." I have no idea what that last phrase means.
  • Richard AncelRichard Ancel Member
    edited June 2017

    Yes 2007 works on Sierra but will not on High Sierra because High Sierra requires 64 bit programs. You would think in ten years Intuit or whoever Quicken is now would have had time to put together a program like 2007 that is 64 bit. Instead they take our money on these ridiculous substitutes that don't work. I went thru this back before Intuit finally fixed 2007 so it would wok on the Intel processor. I kept one computer on the older processor and tried a bunch of programs like Money and Mint etc. All Intuit would do is release Essentials which was no good. Finally after 18 months or so they released the fix for 2007 which has worked until now. I don't know who the Quicken owner is now but it looks like history is repeating and this time I'd like to get away from Quicken unless they can release a suitable program. These discussions sure don't sound like 2017 is that product.

    How does one get away from Quicken? What's the easiest substitute?
  • George ChapmanGeorge Chapman Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.
  • George ChapmanGeorge Chapman Member ✭✭
    edited September 2017
    Erick said:

    My Quicken for Mac 2007 has been working just fine and I am on Sierra.  But I understand High Sierra will require 64-bit applications.  I did try Quicken Essentials a few years back and it did not import all transactions correctly and did not do reports correctly.  I hope Quicken for Mac 2017 is OK.

    If you read this statement carefully, I think it says that the computers that run 32 bit OS X will be supported but does not say 32 bit software will be supported. In fact it seems to say 32 bit software will not work in High Sierra. It says 32 bit software will not be allowed in the App Store. Maybe I'm wrong but my money is on Sierra being the end of 32 bit software.
  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017

    Yes 2007 works on Sierra but will not on High Sierra because High Sierra requires 64 bit programs. You would think in ten years Intuit or whoever Quicken is now would have had time to put together a program like 2007 that is 64 bit. Instead they take our money on these ridiculous substitutes that don't work. I went thru this back before Intuit finally fixed 2007 so it would wok on the Intel processor. I kept one computer on the older processor and tried a bunch of programs like Money and Mint etc. All Intuit would do is release Essentials which was no good. Finally after 18 months or so they released the fix for 2007 which has worked until now. I don't know who the Quicken owner is now but it looks like history is repeating and this time I'd like to get away from Quicken unless they can release a suitable program. These discussions sure don't sound like 2017 is that product.

    Google "Personal Finance Software Mac". 
  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017

    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.

    Add the Kind column. It shows in Sierra here.
  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017

    Yes 2007 works on Sierra but will not on High Sierra because High Sierra requires 64 bit programs. You would think in ten years Intuit or whoever Quicken is now would have had time to put together a program like 2007 that is 64 bit. Instead they take our money on these ridiculous substitutes that don't work. I went thru this back before Intuit finally fixed 2007 so it would wok on the Intel processor. I kept one computer on the older processor and tried a bunch of programs like Money and Mint etc. All Intuit would do is release Essentials which was no good. Finally after 18 months or so they released the fix for 2007 which has worked until now. I don't know who the Quicken owner is now but it looks like history is repeating and this time I'd like to get away from Quicken unless they can release a suitable program. These discussions sure don't sound like 2017 is that product.

    I'm in the same boat, I love my Quicken 2007 and can't find anything better!  When Apple killed off the emulator, which killed my Quicken 2007, I found a Virtual Machine program that let me run the old MacOS with quicken inside.  I had to use dropbox to move files back and forth between the 2 operating systems.  I guess I'll be holding off on High Sierra as long as possible, then it is back to the VM's. 
  • smayer97smayer97 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017

    Yes 2007 works on Sierra but will not on High Sierra because High Sierra requires 64 bit programs. You would think in ten years Intuit or whoever Quicken is now would have had time to put together a program like 2007 that is 64 bit. Instead they take our money on these ridiculous substitutes that don't work. I went thru this back before Intuit finally fixed 2007 so it would wok on the Intel processor. I kept one computer on the older processor and tried a bunch of programs like Money and Mint etc. All Intuit would do is release Essentials which was no good. Finally after 18 months or so they released the fix for 2007 which has worked until now. I don't know who the Quicken owner is now but it looks like history is repeating and this time I'd like to get away from Quicken unless they can release a suitable program. These discussions sure don't sound like 2017 is that product.

    Not sure if you already have it but if you can get a hold of QM2007 LC v16.2.4, it will run on Mac OS X 10.6.8 to 10.12 Sierra (so far). We'll still have to see about High Sierra.

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  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017

    Yes 2007 works on Sierra but will not on High Sierra because High Sierra requires 64 bit programs. You would think in ten years Intuit or whoever Quicken is now would have had time to put together a program like 2007 that is 64 bit. Instead they take our money on these ridiculous substitutes that don't work. I went thru this back before Intuit finally fixed 2007 so it would wok on the Intel processor. I kept one computer on the older processor and tried a bunch of programs like Money and Mint etc. All Intuit would do is release Essentials which was no good. Finally after 18 months or so they released the fix for 2007 which has worked until now. I don't know who the Quicken owner is now but it looks like history is repeating and this time I'd like to get away from Quicken unless they can release a suitable program. These discussions sure don't sound like 2017 is that product.

    That's correct, I'm currently running QM2007 LC v16.2.4 on Sierra 10.12.5 with no problems.  I hope Apple comes out with an emulator, which would buy us several more years of running 32 bit software on High Sierra.  People have a lot time and money tied into their computers/apps and for Apple to just turn things off with no remedy is ridiculous.
  • mlnassmlnass Member ✭✭
    edited June 2017

    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.

    I have stayed with El Capitain mainly for Quicken 2007 that has over 20 years of banking and investment data.  I dread having to make a switch to something not as powerful.
  • ErickErick Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    I have been using QM 2007 very successfully with Sierra.  No problems.  I have bought QM 2017 and it imported all the transactions for 10 years.  But the reports are not as good as QM 2007.  Not sure if it is a good replacement.
  • smayer97smayer97 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Erick said:

    I have been using QM 2007 very successfully with Sierra.  No problems.  I have bought QM 2017 and it imported all the transactions for 10 years.  But the reports are not as good as QM 2007.  Not sure if it is a good replacement.

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  • smayer97smayer97 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2017

    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.

    BTW, QM2007 does work with Sierra. Don't know yet about High Sierra. You may want to get Sierra (at least download it without installing it) while it is still available (assuming no serious impact on any other software you have) before they replace it with High Sierra, which may or may not be compatible with QM2007.

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  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017

    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.

    Before upgrading to Sierra, I moved my Q Mac 2007 data files from the Documents folder to a different folder on the desktop. (Did the same w/ Microsoft Office files in Documents folder.) After upgrading I moved everything back into the Documents folder. Thus they were protected from some effect of the upgrade to Sierra. I previously experimented w/o doing this on a different HD and Q Mac would not open any the the files. Files were "readable" and Q Mac 2007 worked fine.
  • Unknown Member
    edited June 2017

    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.

    I'm not sure how moving your files from one folder to another would protect them from an upgrade.  Your big worry in an upgrade is that the New OS won't be able to run your current apps, which is a real problem with Apple upgrades.  They tend to use their customers as Beta testers.  I always make a Bootable Clone copy of my current drive to an external hard drive with "Carbon Copy Cloner".  Then I update my current internal drive to the new OS.  This way if my major apps don't work, I just re-clone the old OS back to my internal drive.  Then wait for Apple to fix their "New OS" with multiple updates.  
  • Unknown Member
    edited July 2017

    I know 2007 is 32  bit but interestingly enough my Activity Monitor or info tab in Sierra doesn't sho this information. The article must be dated.

    I didn't understand either, but NONE of my QM2007 files would open. I took a backup file from a back up (un updated), drive and it opened just fine. Something happened to these files stored in the Documents folder during the (experimental), upgrade to external HD. That's why I pulled them out of the Documents folder and stashed them elsewhere prior to the update on internal drive. Will do this again when I test High Sierra on a spare HD. I use same strategy as you. I might keep "old external HD" just for QM2007 and boot into it as needed. When Apple changes hardware that won't run anything besides "current stuff", then I'm screwed (unless legacy hardware runs forever-LOL)
  • George ChapmanGeorge Chapman Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    From some articles, I think 32 bit programs will run on High Sierra (I hope). After that they may not. Developers will not be able to sell 32 bit programs on the App Store after the first of 2018. Correct me if you have contrary evidence.
  • smayer97smayer97 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2017

    From some articles, I think 32 bit programs will run on High Sierra (I hope). After that they may not. Developers will not be able to sell 32 bit programs on the App Store after the first of 2018. Correct me if you have contrary evidence.

    There has been no info to say that 32-bit apps will not run...all Apple has stated is that the selling of 32-bit apps will stop in 2018 via the Mac App Store. It is the first step in eventually not supporting 32-bit apps. But it does not appear to be in the Fall release of High Sierra.

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  • Jeff BrawnerJeff Brawner Member ✭✭
    edited July 2017

    From some articles, I think 32 bit programs will run on High Sierra (I hope). After that they may not. Developers will not be able to sell 32 bit programs on the App Store after the first of 2018. Correct me if you have contrary evidence.

    Per Mac Rumors back in June: "Starting in January of 2018, all new apps submitted to the Mac App Store must be 64-bit, and all apps and app updates submitted must be 64-bit by June 2018. With the next version of macOS after High Sierra, Apple will begin "aggressively" warning users about 32-bit apps before eventually phasing them out all together. ". Sounds like we've got until next year some time..
  • John PrewittJohn Prewitt Member ✭✭
    edited October 2018
    Quicken 2007 works on the current beta version of High Sierra.
  • smayer97smayer97 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2017

    Quicken 2007 works on the current beta version of High Sierra.

    Thank you for the first confirmation of this. BTW, are you using the new file system APFS or the old HFS?
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  • ErickErick Member ✭✭
    edited September 2017

    Quicken 2007 works on the current beta version of High Sierra.

    That's great news as QFM 2017 still is not adequate to replace QFM 2007.  There are problems with the reports.  Such as editing columns not possible in QFM 2017.
  • George ChapmanGeorge Chapman Member ✭✭
    edited September 2017

    Quicken 2007 works on the current beta version of High Sierra.

    Thanks for the confirmation of this. That's what I thought in my comment several months ago. Now if they would improve the 2017 version I might think of buying a 2018 version just to see if it's usable. I would bet against any 32 bit programs working on the version of OS X after High Sierra. This 2007 version is 10 years old you would think in that time even the most incompetent software writers could get a program right. I think this company still thinks Macs are not here to stay.
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