Full Quicken for IOS (7 Merged Votes)

John Randolph

I have been a Quicken customer/user since it first became available, and as the technology has evolved I have moveed from MSDOS to Windows, and on to Mac OS, and now IOS products. I now have Quicken 2018 for my Mac, and Quicken Mobile for my iPhones and iPads. Now that it appears that there is a portable (across operating systems) build of Quicken 2018, and the “Laptop/Workstation/PC” environment is moving towards the “Pad/Tablet”, so is there a plan as to when will see a full version of Quicken for IOS on the iPads?

splasher

the “Laptop/Workstation/PC” environment is moving towards the “Pad/Tablet”

Where did you hear that?  How about citing a reputable source for that statement?

John Randolph

While your response appears to me to be somewhat argumentative in context, I'll try to answer your question.  

A rudimentary search of the topic will provide a wide variety of opinions, and it could be argued that with major players in the marketplace like Apple and Intel, and their Pad/Tablet initiatives, and the "Moore's Law" influence, that is a natural transition from Mainframes to Desktop PCs, to Laptops, to Pads/Tablets, is a logical and natural progression.  Observation in the marketplace in my mind tends to support this as evidenced by peoples everyday experiences in the people to people business environment.  Examples of this range from ordering in a restaurant where the waitress uses a tablet, visiting a medical provider where you are presented with a tablet to update or provide information, or in the retail sales environment where similar tools are now changing the process and adopting Pads/Tablets and reducing the need for Workstations/PCs/Laptops.  There will remain a niche for traditional Desktop environments for a period of time, but eventually even those needs will disappear and be replaced with some new type of technology.  

To deny the progression of Desktops, to Laptops, to Pads/Tablets, is much like the old argument that Windows would never replace DOS.  

I'm not trying to deny the current need for some people to have Quicken for the PC or Laptop, but I, and likely many others, would like to have Quicken on my iPad Pro (or Tablet). 

Now, back to my original question:  Is there any information as to availability in the future of a build of Quicken 201x for IOS?

Unknown

Now that it appears that there is a portable (across operating
systems) build of Quicken 2018, and the “Laptop/Workstation/PC”
environment is moving towards the “Pad/Tablet”

You have misinterpreted the 2018 release of Quicken product offering.

1. Quicken Windows and Quicken Mac Desktop are still both separate programs with different data file formats.  They are not in the least cross operating system builds.  The only thing that is different with the 2018 Release of Quicken subscription is that you now get both installs.
2. Quicken Desktop is certainly not "portable" to any of the mobile operating systems.
3. Quicken Mobile is no closer to being a "full Quicken" than it was last year.  In fact it has temporary lost its budget functions during the conversion from the Intuit servers to the Quicken servers.
   

Unknown

To deny the progression of Desktops, to Laptops, to Pads/Tablets, is
much like the old argument that Windows would never replace DOS. 

I think you haven't been keeping up with the times.  Tablet purchases are actually declining:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/tablet-shipments-decline-again/

The main problem with Tablets are they are good for "consuming", but bad for creating.
It is a pain to type anything on them.

But more fundamentally for Quicken there is two main problems.

1. The code would have to be totally rewritten.  It isn't possible to take any of the exist code and use it on the mobile operating systems.  What's more code written on iOS doesn't run on Android.  They would have to write the code at least twice.  Quicken Mac Desktop got a total rewrite starting in 2008 and if they are lucky they will have all of the features you find in Quicken Windows Deluxe in say about another year.
2. In the mobile world device go from tiny to about the same size as a Desktop screen.  And touch is expected.  This drives what the GUI has to look like.  Quicken's current feature set would have to be completely redesigned, and there would have to be much more screens and scrolling.  It certainly would much different than what is already on Quicken Desktop.
   

splasher

@John Randolph

You made a statement that IT WAS HAPPENING.  I was just curious where you had gotten that information.

Should I have added a please and thank you to my question to make it less "somewhat argumentative in context"?

John Randolph

I question your presumption that there is not a current portable version of Quicken.  

The communications from the Intuit/Quicken team that I have followed for the last couple of years has certainly led me to believe that a complete rewrite was taking place, and for anyone to expend the resources to do that without incorporating that requirement would be foolish and cost prohibitive from a future maintenance perspective.

I hope that you are wrong, and I will be very disappointed if they have not done so.

Greg_the_Geek

If you want Quicken on a tablet, buy a Windows tablet.

Unknown

I question your presumption that there is not a current portable version of Quicken.  

The communications from the Intuit/Quicken team that I have followed for the last couple of years has certainly led me to believe that a complete rewrite was taking place, and for anyone to expend the resources to do that without incorporating that requirement would be foolish and cost prohibitive from a future maintenance perspective.

I hope that you are wrong, and I will be very disappointed if they have not done so.

The communications from the Intuit/Quicken team

Do you have a private communication channel with the developers?

I have been on Quicken forums since 2007, I have been in betas talking to the to lead Q/A person, and product managers for probably more than 5 years.

And this is the first I have ever heard of any effort in this area.

The existing Quicken mobile was actually port from the Mint mobile.
And frankly they have added very little since it has it came out in 2013.

I have heard that there is now a dedicated Quicken mobile group, which was announced about a 1/2 year to a year ago.

Other than getting the Intuit to Quicken transition working.  About the only thing that has show up in public is more crashes and incompatibilities on certain devices, and the removal of the budget function.

Not exactly a glowing report for how great the group is doing.

Maybe they are saving their "best work" for this "hidden project".

Unknown

I question your presumption that there is not a current portable version of Quicken.  

The communications from the Intuit/Quicken team that I have followed for the last couple of years has certainly led me to believe that a complete rewrite was taking place, and for anyone to expend the resources to do that without incorporating that requirement would be foolish and cost prohibitive from a future maintenance perspective.

I hope that you are wrong, and I will be very disappointed if they have not done so.

Oh, to be far I did see a Quicken employee ask a few weeks ago if some of the people on this forum that have requested a "web based Quicken" would like to talk to him.

Unknown

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Full Mobile Version Needed.


Why has Qucken not developed a full version for iPad only users? There are those of us who do not rely on anPC or laptop for access to the internet because we strictly use an iPad.

splasher

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Full Mobile Version Needed.


Why has Qucken not developed a full version for iPad only users? There are those of us who do not rely on anPC or laptop for access to the internet because we strictly use an iPad.

If they wrote one for the iPad, then the Android users would demand their own version also.

It is not as simple as it sounds.  They are still, after several years, trying to get a version for Mac that is even remotely equivalent to the Windows product.

Good luck with your request.

smayer97

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Full Mobile Version Needed.


Why has Qucken not developed a full version for iPad only users? There are those of us who do not rely on anPC or laptop for access to the internet because we strictly use an iPad.

And here it is:   :-P
https://getsatisfaction.com/quickencommunity/topics/stand-alone-mobile-app

Unknown

This is needed

robertcweber

Is there a planneD iPad version that is not in the cloud?

smayer97

FYI, take a look at Simplifi by Quicken...an independent product not "related" to Quicken (and currently does not have a migration path from Quicken desktop):

https://www.quicken.com/simplifi

HCKCOS

I‘m about to abandon Windows for IPAD Pro, will quicken ever port to IOS? I may be cancelling my subscription if the answer is no.

jacobs

@HCKCOS Quicken’s desktop software for Mac or Windows has a free iOS companion app which allows you to see and enter data — but it is only for syncing with a desktop version of the application for full features.

As an alternative for people who would prefer en entirely online experience, Quicken recently launched Simplfi as an online service which can be used from any computer, tablet or phone. I don’t think you can migrate existing Quicken data into Simplifi. 

smayer97

jacobs said:

... I don’t think you can migrate existing Quicken data into Simplifi. 

No, you can't

[email protected]

I use Quicken for MAC subscription version and for me it is far superior to Windows. As Apple evolves, the iPad Pro is a real replacement for the MacBooks and is far less expensive. Any chance for the full Quicken subscription version moving to IOS?

jacobs

@[email protected] I don't think that's the direction Quicken has been moving in. At this point, they have desktop Quicken for Windows and Mac (both of which can be used with a mobile app on iOS or a web interface on an iPad), and they have the new Simplifi product that is entirely web-based (but separate and different than Quicken).

I don't think Quicken is likely to be building a complete iOS version of Quicken on their own; just look at how many years they have been working on building the current Quicken Mac, and all the feature requests they have yet to implement. 

That said, Apple is moving towards making it possible to run iOS software on a Mac, and possibly to run macOS software on iOS devices. Their goal is to let developers develop one set of code and have it run on multiple platforms. In its earliest form, the goal is to get iOS apps to run on Macs, but the reverse -- macOS apps on iOS -- may follow. We will likely get more information about this in June when Apple hosts its annual developers conference and announces its latest directions. It's rumored that Macs that run on the same chips as iPads are coming, maybe as soon as the end of this year, and that, too, may ease the way for cross-platform app building.

Bill Conyer

Are there any plans or discussions for a standalone version for the new iPad Pro?
This may be the wrong forum for yhis question.

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Nunzy23

It would be nice if the iPad app had more functionality so it could at least be used to manually enter income and bill reminders. I love quicken, and at this point is the only reason I need a laptop. I’d love to ditch the laptop for a better quicken iPad app.

Quicken_Tyka

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I have moved your post to the ongoing Idea thread for this topic, at this time there has not been any official announcements or plans whether this will be available.

Be sure to navigate to the top of this post and click the up arrow to add your vote!

Thank you,

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tdjgordon

For Apple to truly move the iPad Pro into the laptop space certain software applications must be redone. The iPad Pro has enough processing power to support the full desktop version of Quicken (for the Mac). Take a look the advanced features of Microsoft Word and Affinity Photo. I’ve been using Quicken Mobile since the “Pocket PC” versions of the 80’s and 90’s. It’s time to completely rewrite Quicken Mobile. Thanks for your consideration.

Chris_QPW

@tdjgordon Intuit decided to totally rewrite Quicken Mac starting in 2007.  In 2010 they released "Quicken Essentials for Mac".  Very few people switched from Quicken Mac 2007 to it.  And even if you include a few years thrown out for the "starts and stop" you now have Quicken Mac Subscription in 2020 that is getting "close", but still missing features.  And Quicken Inc has thrown even more resources into it since was sold to them.

And you want another total rewrite for iOS.  This isn't about "processing power" it is about the time it takes to develop a program like Quicken on a new operating system.

Chris_QPW

P.S. to this date from 12/2017 to 6/2020, 6 people have voted for this.

tdjgordon

Hi Chris! Thanks for your comment. I think you missed my point. Bottom line is that when my MacBook Air dies, I have no intention of buying another Mac. I currently do 90% of my work on my iPad Pro. 5% on my iPhone 11 Pro Max. The final 5% on my Mac. I need to have a version of Quicken that I can use on my iPad Pro that lets me do what I’m doing on Quicken for Mac. IOS is the future of Apple, IMHO.