Restored "Backup" file has current data.
In need of finding a "lost" transaction I restored a backup file from 10/20/2018 and gave it a new name to distinguish it from my active data file. When I opened the restored file I was surprised to find ALL of my data in the file including transactions AFTER 10/20/2018 to date 01/04/2019.
This is very strange. This is with Quicken 2019 Premier, R17.6, Build 27.1.17.6 and the latest update of Windows 10 Pro 64bit.
How is this happening because there should not be ANY transactions in the restored file after 10/20/2019 unless there is something wrong with the file restoration process. Anyone have any ideas? The file validates and super validates just fine....
This is very strange. This is with Quicken 2019 Premier, R17.6, Build 27.1.17.6 and the latest update of Windows 10 Pro 64bit.
How is this happening because there should not be ANY transactions in the restored file after 10/20/2019 unless there is something wrong with the file restoration process. Anyone have any ideas? The file validates and super validates just fine....
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If you can't tell, I throwing stuff at the wall to see what might stick, since what you have described isn't the way I have ever seen it work.
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It kind of proves a maxim that we have developed in my family and that is "We make 'I've NEVER seen that before' possible on a daily basis." Which is why I am so diligent about backing up everything not just Quicken!
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Also, is the recent data that appears to have been added to the restored file have all the edits you made manually or idoes it appear to be just freshly downloaded from the FI?
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It is definitely NOT information freshly downloaded from the FI's because when the I start Quicken using the restored file all the NEWER data is there, no connection to the FI's were made because there is no delay.
Just spitballing but I wonder if this may have something to do with the reconciliation report issue where when you have the "All Transactions" selected it does all transactions from the beginning not just ALL the transactions for the reconciliation period like it used to.... just thinking....
I suggest you rename your active file and then do a normal restoration without trying to change the file name. You should see a file as you would expect it in the condition it was last opened/saved.
I know from what you wrote that you do not use QMobile/Q-Web, but just for grins, what shows if you go to Q-Web at app.quicken.com, logging as the QID in the above file and select the Fisher2017 cloud file?
Does it show a bunch of nothing? Doing this does not change if any accounts are synced, it is just a cross-check on the Quicken Cloud Account.
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Do you have another computer where you can install Quicken, move a backup over there, and then open the backup?
Adding- I just restored a backup after manually entering a transaction to my active file. The restore functioned as expected. This was in Beta 20.3 but it is supposed to be the same as R17.
How it did it I haven't a clue the old file was deleted and the opening of the restored file was instantaneous, no time for it to look elsewhere....
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Prior to the restore all accounts had been reconciled thru December. After the restoration all of the transactions are there BUT the reconciliations only go to September and early October in other words prior to 10/14/2018.
But wait there is more. Upon closer inspection I noticed the following:
My main M & T checking account is the only account (out of 43 accounts) showing all of the transactions, my other bank accounts (including M&T accounts) and credit card accounts only show transactions prior to 10/14/2018 as it should.
So might I assume that my main M & T checking account is somehow corrupted even though validate and super validate show no issues. I say this because it was my main checking account that "lost" one transaction from 10/13/2018 and that happened at some point between the November 2018 and December 2018 reconciliation of the main checking account because it did not come to light until my December 2018 reconciliation was off, the opening balance was off and therefore the whole reconciliation was toast. Reentering the mission transaction restored the balance but I lost the category that the transaction had bee assigned to thus my attempts to restore a backup to find out the correct category that the deposit was to be assigned to.
If so how to I fix it so that it doesn't cause havoc with my other accounts that the main checking account has had transfers etc. with?
I must say Snowman, you did come up with an intriguing problem. ;-)
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corrupted even though validate and super validate show no issues."
I generally haven't been a big believer in "magic", but I might have to change my mind. I can't conceive how a backup file from October, 2018 can somehow instantly contain all the transactions from the time of the backup to the present, and in only one Account. And, apparently, this seems to be happening in all your backed up files? And, apparently, that 10/14/18 backup file which should include the missing 10/13/18 transaction is also missing the 10/13/18 transaction in that one Account?
You mentioned you had an active file on the laptop which went to 10/31/18 and that you deleted it for one of your experiments. Assuming that you didn't empty the Windows trashcan can you un-delete that file, computer not connected to the internet, and see how that 10/13/18 transaction was classified?
(Side note: Here's where keeping paper - or PDF - copies of monthly financial statements can save your bacon, even when "magic happens". Comparing an October spending report prepared today to your October spending report prepared last year should pop out the missing transaction's Category.)
The other problem was that the category assigned in the 10/14/2018 backup was wrong, so that was no help in the end.
I had this happen about two years ago to the same account but it exhibited other strange symptoms back then and I had create a new account and copy it as Splasher has suggested.
However back then I had to redo ALL of the transfers manually which was quite a chore.
It would be nice if the validate process would pick this up but it is what it is...
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