Add Option to Change the Security Detail Graph

Gerry Blue
Gerry Blue Member ✭✭✭
edited August 2020 in Investments (Windows)
The most recent update (R28.10) appears to have changed the security detail graph in "Market Value" mode so that the Y axis insists on starting at 0. It seems to me that the Y axis used to be more contextual starting a little below the lowest value and ending a little above the highest value. Personally, I prefer the more contextual view. Is this configurable? I haven't yet found a setting to indicate my preference.
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  • canoe32
    canoe32 Member ✭✭✭
    I, too, prefer the old charts. "Price History" charts display the same way. My bond fund charts are nearly as flat as the money market charts, visually useless.
  • Jim_Harman
    Jim_Harman SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were problems with the old charts where they would sometimes set the origin automatically and sometimes not. Forcing the origin to zero is NOT a good solution.
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  • canoe32
    canoe32 Member ✭✭✭
    With these new charts, anything with a high share price or that trades in a very narrow price range will result in a flat, uninformative chart. Quicken should restore the old chart style, or at least give the user an option to.
  • Dr0Bob
    Dr0Bob Member
    The new graph format starting at 0 makes the graphs pretty useless if the asset's volatility is small compared to the asset's value. Please go back to the old style, at least as an option.
  • Quicken_Tyka
    Quicken_Tyka Alumni ✭✭✭✭
    Hello all,

    I have gone ahead and changed this post to an Idea thread so that everyone may vote to add a preference for how the security detail graph is displayed. 

    Be sure to navigate to the top of this post and click the up arrow to add your vote!



    Ideas are reviewed by our development team to see what people would like to be available in the future.

    Thank you,

    -Quicken Tyka

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  • canoe32
    canoe32 Member ✭✭✭
    Quicken Tyka:
    When I go up and click on that, a small window opens up in the lower left corner of my browser that says "Category is not configured for ideation."
  • Quicken_Tyka
    Quicken_Tyka Alumni ✭✭✭✭
    Hello @canoe32

    Thank you for letting me know! This has been corrected and you should now be able to add your vote.

    Please let me know if you have any further issues!

    -Quicken Tyka
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  • Rocket J Squirrel
    Rocket J Squirrel SuperUser, Windows Beta ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got my vote. Obviously, the code exists to do it either way - set the graph y-origin at either zero or a relative value. I would like to see this configurable for each security's detail view.
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  • BigG
    BigG Member
    If I can't get the graphs to go back to relative value, I will no longer need Quicken.
  • Ekim
    Ekim Member ✭✭
    I agree with BigG and others, this was a dumb change made it must go back to the relative view or the graphs or pretty much useless for many securities. PLEASE CHANGE ASAP.
  • Amy
    Amy Member ✭✭
    I'm seeing this as well and agree the graphs in the Security Detail view are worthless in their current state. It needs to be changed back to use a relative range of the security price or market value for the time period selected.

    I have discussed with Quicken support and opened issue # 7892794.

    The current y-axis setting makes as much sense as starting the x-axis date at 0 as well.
  • tgrantdavis
    tgrantdavis Windows Beta Beta
    I think it should be available either way, as a setting.
    Unlike some others, I usually want to see graphs from a base of zero to understand the relative changes. Flat looks flat. But sometimes I want to blow it up to see the detail. Both ways of looking at are valid.
    I voted. But it is not clear if the vote is for change back to minimum value at the bottom of the y-axis or configurable. I want configurable.
  • RMendow
    RMendow Member
    Ideally, I would like it configurable, but if I can't get that I would prefer the previous way. (There is a bug in the previous way that I have been complaining about for years. The lower bound was set to the minimum value in the values graphed, but didn't match the value shown in the legend which was a round number. This caused an offset between the actual data values and the legend and grid lines.) Is it too much to hope that Quicken can fix this bug while it is working on this issue?
  • Amy
    Amy Member ✭✭
    edited August 2020
    [Removed-Disruptive] Large numbers for either price or market value make the y-axis range anchored to zero useless in seeing trends, or even resolving candlestick daily price range markers.

    Flat lines provide little information, they are far too common with this recent update.

    Please back out the last update ASAP
  • Amy
    Amy Member ✭✭
    Since the last update the y axis on the graphs in the security detail view is pegged to start at 0. This renders the graphs useless. How can we get this fixed?
  • Amy
    Amy Member ✭✭
    edited August 2020
    [Removed-Rant/Duplicate]
  • Ekim
    Ekim Member ✭✭
    I don't understand why this is pegged as an "Idea". I have used Quicken for many many years and it was always done the old display type. This should be marked as a bug in my mind. I was hoping it was going to be fixed in the most recent updates but obviously not. It would be good for us to know if this is going to be fixed eventually or not. I need to update my subscription next month and I will think twice about doing so if this issue is not resolved. These displays is something I use VERY often in reviewing my performance. PLEASE change to a bug vs. Idea.
  • Jim_Harman
    Jim_Harman SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think this topic counts as an Idea because this was apparently an intentional change in a recent Quicken release.

    The request is partly to restore the former functionality, although this worked inconsistently in the past. See this discussion
    https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/20060070#Comment_20060070

    and this one
    https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/19824091#Comment_19824091

    The new request is to make the vertical axis of these graphs user-settable.
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  • Amy
    Amy Member ✭✭
    edited September 2020
    It's not an idea, it's a bug fix.

    Prior to the change, the chart Y-Axis range was determined by the price or market value range of the security in question in the time range selected, thus maximizing the useful area of the chart, regardless of time frame, price, or market value.

    [Removed-Violation of Community Guidelines]
  • jwschmalz
    jwschmalz Member ✭✭
    I voted, and I'd like the range of the Y-axis on the graphs to be user configurable. This change is a loss of user functionality in Quicken. There are lots of users that do trend analysis visually. Currently, the graphs are useless. Please roll back this change ASAP.
  • How did this get through any kind of user testing/feedback/input? It is a horrendous change. The old approach was inconsistent and had no control either but at least it worked most of the time. Fix this by giving users control of how the Y Axis is displayed. Absolutely terrible change.
  • BigG
    BigG Member
    edited September 2020
    [Removed-Violation of Community Guidelines]
  • Quicken_Tyka
    Quicken_Tyka Alumni ✭✭✭✭
    Hello all,

    This post has become argumentative and is now being closed. The ability to vote on the thread will remain open.

    If you would like to see this feature changed, please be sure to navigate to the top of this post and click the up arrow to add your vote!


    Ideas are reviewed by our development team to see what people would like to be available in the future.

    Thank you,

    -Quicken Tyka

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