Beware the effects of changing security symbols
I don't understand what happened, but will caution you all. My wife and I have data for 27 investment accounts with 80 years of history in QW2014. Seven of them are active and are reconciled each month. Our security list contains a bit over 525 securities, (tried to count on the screen instead of printing), of which about 150 had no recorded symbol, only the name. (I do not download transactions or prices, so this has not been a problem.)
After reconciling active accounts for June of this year, I decided to work on getting symbols fixed because the QIF export will not export the price history without them. I did already have about 30 fake symbols I have created for assets that I treat as investments, such as insurance which pays dividends and interest. I believe my fake symbols are fairly safe as I just created a sequence with my initials and a number, such as CRC01, CRC02, etc. Some of these have been in my data for years with no problems. Others I researched online and even found symbols for securities that no longer exist in the markets.
After I had done about 100 of the securities, I looked at my investment accounts in detail and found a scary thing. While all of the month-end account values seem to be correct, there are some strange figures that stand out in the gain/loss column of the Holdings view.
From one account for example, I see one security with a gain/loss of $-35,610.64 and three rows down another with a gain/loss of +$40,153.24. These are nowhere near accurate. Reviewing the price history detail, I don't see any large prices recorded in error. What I do see is that the number of shares for both securities in Holdings now are invalid by very large numbers in the hundreds.
Fortunately, I do have 13 backups for the month, so now the challenge is finding the one after I reconciled which I hope is before I began changing symbols.
I have no idea how this could occur as the identifying data elements seem to be security name and security symbol so you would expect that incorrect merging of price history would have altered the account totals and it is mind-blowing that the month-end account total values are still correct.
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As an update to this situation, recovery of my data is progressing after having to use a backup file from January 3, 2024 that was just before I attempted the security symbol change. I have to re-enter data and reconcile accounts month-by-month, aided by displaying data from my old QW2014 file on a second monitor. I'm nearly done bringing up to date my current checking and credit card data, and then can begin re-entering all the data for our seven active investment accounts in order to recover ( actually recreate ) all of my price history accurately.
Again my caution to you all: Consider very carefully before changing security symbols, research your existing data before, and be sure you have backups before you do it. My price history was totally buggered beyond repair.
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Another update on this: Yesterday when I attempted to open Quicken on the file I've been manually rebuilding, I got a failure that claimed my file was corrupt and could not be opened. No detail, nothing to tell me what the problem is. Fortunately, I have a backup that is only two days old. Now I will have to log in to several online sources to see what is missing from my file after items have had time to clear.
My data is on a pretty new 500gb non-OS data-only drive in a Dell desktop that has never failed, and the disc was newly formatted shortly before I moved my restored file to that machine. This is the worst situation I have ever had with my systems.
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Faithful Q user since 1986, with historical data beginning in 1943, programmer, database designer and developer for 42 years, general troublemaker on Community.Quicken.Com0
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