jwbell said: I have tried this. What have I tried since May 1st. QcleanUI, Revouninstall, Shift+control (new file, with backup file, file restores but then aborts), hours upon hours with support with 3 companies pointing to the other. mondo patch just will not complete. I suspect that there was a windows update there is noise on the web of that. Partly the reason Mondo Patch is there. thank you for the reply ... Help!!