New invoicing module Question (Q Mac)

I have just started to use the new invoice module in quicken business and personal Mac.
However the categorization seems to be an issue for me.
When invoking “receive payment” it defaults both the payee and the category to “client payment” in the checking register.
But, in the register I want the payee to reflect the clients name and the category to be assigned, IE “rental income” or some such. However if I override that it deletes the link to the client payment.
Am I missing something?
Thanks,
Paul
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Yes, you're missing how invoices/payments works. The "Product or Service" that is listed on a line on an invoice is where the Category comes from. The Client's name is the name on the invoice and their history can be viewed in the Business > Clients tab.
Because a payment for an invoice can cover any number of line items … each of which has its own category… the payment itself cannot have a category.
Further, payments can be received and not yet applied to an invoice… in which case the payment is associated with no categories at all… but is a Client Credit. Also, a payment might be sitting on your desk and not at the bank, so it will be in the Undeposited Funds sidebar account until you make the deposit.Your Reports will show all transactions with the correct categories. If you want to see the status of any client, then on the Clients tab, right click - or click the 3 dots - and select View Client to see their invoice/payment details.
Unfortunately, there are many reports that have not yet been developed to give us everything we need and want… such as a category/client crosstab report, client profitability, etc etc.
Quicken user since 1990, MacBook Pro M2 Max on Sequoia 15.4 (and Win 11 under Parallels Desktop)
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I see. That doesn't work for me. I just want to record the gross amount and apply it to a category, e.g rental income, services rendered, etc. I do sometimes use line items but just for the invoice.
I like the invoice module and will continue to use it to create invoices that I will send out as pdfs but it sounds like I will not be able to use it to manage received payments.
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I'm not sure why you say it doesn't work for you. The invoice item is associated with 'rental income', etc… and all goes to the proper categories. Give some examples of that you want that doesn't work? E.g., what report can you not generate? That would help the Quicken team determine if they need to add more features.
Quicken user since 1990, MacBook Pro M2 Max on Sequoia 15.4 (and Win 11 under Parallels Desktop)
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I just want one category per invoice / client.
Example - as an IC it might be "freelance income". On the invoice itself I might break down specific items but those are only for the invoice and not to be reflected anywhere else. It should just go into freelance income.
Which is how I do it currently and I can go to the income and expense statement and see exactly that category. I dont want all the sub categories that itemizing on an invoice now seems to generate.
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I know of no accounting program that will do what you want. So, I guess you'll have to do your workaround.
There are no subcategories generated by invoices now - unless you've added multiple items and assigned them to multiple subcategories. Really don't understand yet how a single service item (that YOU create - ONCE) on an invoice doesn't serve your needs. Maybe someone else will join in here that sees what I'm not seeing…
Quicken user since 1990, MacBook Pro M2 Max on Sequoia 15.4 (and Win 11 under Parallels Desktop)
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Example - as an IC it might be "freelance income". On the invoice itself I might break down specific items but those are only for the invoice and not to be reflected anywhere else. It should just go into freelance income.
So if you have multiple products for display on the invoice, but want them all to flow to Freelance Income category, can't you just assign each separate product to that category? So whether you have on eline item or four on the invoice, all the income from the invoice will go to the one income category you want.
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On an invoice, let's say I have three line items, the labor hours for services rendered each day.
If I then go /dashboard/income statement/business income, instead of seeing just the total for that invoice I see every line item listed.
Multiply this by many invoices and I am awash in nothing but line items - all I want is the invoice total. If I want to see the line items I can create a custom report. But in the generic income statement/business income report I just want the top level view. So I guess I will have to continue with my workaround. So close, yet so far…
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@Paul1 wrote:
If I then go /dashboard/income statement/business income, instead of seeing just the total for that invoice I see every line item listed.
If I go to Business > Dashboard > Report tile > Income Statement I get a normal income statement with totals by category. I see zero detail. I'm not sure what you're doing to see every invoice line item… which I agree should only appear on a detail level report.
Quicken user since 1990, MacBook Pro M2 Max on Sequoia 15.4 (and Win 11 under Parallels Desktop)
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If I then go /dashboard/income statement/business income, instead of seeing just the total for that invoice I see every line item listed.
An income statement has one line for every category. So if you're seeing multiple lines, it's because you've used multiple categories.
I just want one category per invoice / client. Example - as an IC it might be "freelance income". On the invoice itself I might break down specific items but those are only for the invoice and not to be reflected anywhere else. It should just go into freelance income.
As I suggested above, you could use multiple Products for your invoices which all flow to a single Category, which would result in everything on an invoice counting as one category of income.
And if you're truly breaking down details just for what's displayed on an invoice, you could probably just use one Product, and provide your customer the details in the Description field. That is, if you create a single Product called "Services", you could have multiple line items using that product and having descriptions of the different things you've done.
But if you have different amounts you charge based on what service you've done, then create more Products, each with their own Rate, but having the same Category.
It sounds like you currently have different Products each using different sub-categories, and then you're frustrated at seeing those sub-categories reported on an Income Statement. Since you said that the details on each invoice "are only for the invoice and not to be reflected anywhere else", then using either one Product, or multiple Products which use the same Category, would achieve what you want.
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Here is an example of what I am getting that I don't want - this is a test invoice with four line items. When viewed in the business income statement it shows the invoice by line item — this is NOT what I want. I just need to see the top level total of the invoice.
But it seems any invoice that has line items is displayed in this manner.
PS: it would be great to also be able to set a default deposit account when marking an invoice as paid.
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I would guess the thinking is that most people would have different products for the different items in the invoice. In your case, could you just have one line item, and use the description field to capture the details you want only on the invoice?
It would be great to also be able to set a default deposit account when marking an invoice as paid.
When you enter a payment, it should default to the last deposit account used. So you only need to select a deposit account after you've used a different account for a payment. (I understand that's not the same as have a default account which is used every single time.)
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@Paul1 That is NOT a Business Income Statement that you show. I have no idea what that is… but a Business Income statement does not show clients or invoices. It looks like this, giving totals per category:
Quicken user since 1990, MacBook Pro M2 Max on Sequoia 15.4 (and Win 11 under Parallels Desktop)
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Yes it is.
It is the detail level — click on the business revenue amount to see the detail.
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I'm sorry you're so confused about how accounting / reporting works. A detail level report is a drill-down transaction level. It is not a business income statement (which I showed). Yes, any detail report will show line items… as it should
You asked for a summary - I showed you how - and how you're complaining that you drilled into a total and don't like the result? What was wrong with the actual Business Income Statement that did not meet your needs. It seems everything you've asked for is addressed. If you need that for a single client, then apply a filter and memorize the result. Etc etc.
Quicken user since 1990, MacBook Pro M2 Max on Sequoia 15.4 (and Win 11 under Parallels Desktop)
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As I've said, if you want only one detail line per invoice if you drill down on your income, then create your invoices with only one line item. You can type as long as you description as you need (onscreen it is only one line, but in a printed invoice it expands to as many lines as needed). Or you can type information about the different products/services provided on the invoice in the Note to Client field. So you can achieve what you want. (If you choose to continue to record multiple line items in your invoice, you can't expect them to be combined for income reporting at the drill-down/detail level; that's just not the way a drill-down report works.)
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