Investement performance report- Quicken Classic Business & personal- Canadian

lcharron1951
lcharron1951 Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭

There seems to be an error in the way the report calculates the performnce of the portfolio. For instance it considers the broker's management fees as a return instead of adding them to the Investments column: has anybody else notice that?

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  • Jim_Harman
    Jim_Harman Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can control whether the management fee is considered a Return or not.

    You should record the fee as a Misc Expense in the account, using a Category that is just for fees.

    To see and change the setting, go to Tools > Category List and right click on the Category you are using for the fees. Select Edit to see the Edit Category dialog.

    The setting is somewhat confusing. If you check the "Affects Investment Performance" box, the fees are not considered part of the account's Return and thus will be as drag on the account's performance.

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  • lcharron1951
    lcharron1951 Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭

    Thank you for your reply. It does remove the fees from the performance calculation but it doesn't give me the returns after fees. Why doesn't the calculation consider the fees as an "additional investment"? This would give me the return after fees.

  • q_lurker
    q_lurker Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcharron1951 Something is not clear here. Greatly simplifying —

    • Suppose you started the period with an investment portfolio worth $1,000.
    • At the end of the period, the investments were worth $1,100.
    • During the period, you paid a $10 management fee using assets from that portfolio of investments

    The original Quicken calculation would say your initial investment grew from $1,000 to $1,110. (nominally 11%). The amount paid as fees is considered part of the return. That is the return before fees were deducted.

    The revised calculation after resetting the checkbox for the category becomes $1,000 growing to $1,100 (10%). The amount paid assigned to the particular category is not included in the returns. That is a return after fees.

    The only picture I can visualize where the fees would be an "added investment" would be if you paid those into the account from an outside resource in which case you'd then have $1,010 growing to $1,100. Is that what you are doing? If so, that extra deposit should be showing up in the Investments column of the Investment Performance report (if details are included).

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