Transferring Call and Put Options Between Accounts
Dean Barsaleau
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I have brokerage and IRA accounts at USAA. They recently contracted with Schwab to take over all of their investment services. This occurred on May 26. All of my securities disappeared from my USAA account and reappeared in my new Schwab accounts.
I can no longer download transactions from my USAA accounts (because they no longer exist), and for whatever reason, I cannot setup Quicken downloads from my new Schwab accounts yet. I assume that will be fixed once the transition is complete from their perspective.
In the meantime, I added new Schwab accounts manually in Quicken and, using the New transaction Shares Transferred Between Accounts, I selected "All Securities". After a few minutes Quicken made the appropriate entries in both the old and new accounts. However, afterwards, I noticed there was still a negative security value in the old USAA accounts. Further investigation revealed that none of my sold Call options transferred, and the USAA accounts still show the presence of these options with a quantity of -100 for each. When I try and use the same transaction to transfer these securities from the old to new accounts, Quicken says I don't have enough shares, probably because it already shows a negative value.
I also tried to use the transaction "Remove - Shares Removed" from the old account but this did not work because of the negative share balance. If I use that transaction I end up with -200 shares rather than 0 shares in the old account.
I am using Quicken Premier 2020 version R26.23, build 27.1.26.23.
Please advise your recommended approach for transferring unexpired sold options between accounts in Quicken. Thank you!
I can no longer download transactions from my USAA accounts (because they no longer exist), and for whatever reason, I cannot setup Quicken downloads from my new Schwab accounts yet. I assume that will be fixed once the transition is complete from their perspective.
In the meantime, I added new Schwab accounts manually in Quicken and, using the New transaction Shares Transferred Between Accounts, I selected "All Securities". After a few minutes Quicken made the appropriate entries in both the old and new accounts. However, afterwards, I noticed there was still a negative security value in the old USAA accounts. Further investigation revealed that none of my sold Call options transferred, and the USAA accounts still show the presence of these options with a quantity of -100 for each. When I try and use the same transaction to transfer these securities from the old to new accounts, Quicken says I don't have enough shares, probably because it already shows a negative value.
I also tried to use the transaction "Remove - Shares Removed" from the old account but this did not work because of the negative share balance. If I use that transaction I end up with -200 shares rather than 0 shares in the old account.
I am using Quicken Premier 2020 version R26.23, build 27.1.26.23.
Please advise your recommended approach for transferring unexpired sold options between accounts in Quicken. Thank you!
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(I assume the short positions are not in the new Account.)Unless you're talking about dozens and dozens of transactions I'd think simply deleting the trades in the old Account and then entering them again in the new Account might be the simplest approach. Of course the short sales will create cash in the new Account, overstating cash, so I'd get rid of the cash by doing a Cash Transferred out of Account action for that excess cash with the same Account listed as the receiving Account.5
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(I assume the short positions are not in the new Account.)Unless you're talking about dozens and dozens of transactions I'd think simply deleting the trades in the old Account and then entering them again in the new Account might be the simplest approach. Of course the short sales will create cash in the new Account, overstating cash, so I'd get rid of the cash by doing a Cash Transferred out of Account action for that excess cash with the same Account listed as the receiving Account.5
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Tom,
Thanks for the workaround. Hopefully the coders will see this issue and fix in a future build.
Dean0
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