Dragging & Resizing Window is Sluggish

DavidJ

Greetings,

I have an older desktop running Windows 10, with 8GB of RAM and dual (identical) monitors.

I can have multiple apps running, such as Outlook, Excel, Adobe Reader, Chrome, Word, and Quicken, and all apps can be resized or dragged between monitors without as much as a slight hesitation. However, it can take upwards of 3 seconds to resize or move the Quicken app. I can even have a photo editor such as GIMP open and everything except Quicken is smooth as silk.

Anyone else have this issue, or any thoughts on what could be the culprit? It's been acting like this for quite some time now and It's getting annoying enough for me to see what can be done.

Thanks,
David

Chris_QPW

The problem is Quicken, or more exactly how the Quicken Inc decided to muck with the main window to put some controls where they aren't supported by the standard APIs.  These controls:


Yes, Microsoft puts such controls in their products all the time, but they have the resources (access to GUI low level coders) to do it right.

There isn't a standard API for doing this so when Quicken Inc decided to do this they basically create a new window that they paint over the built in one.

This causes all kinds of different problems.  One is the lag to move/resize the window that you mention.

Other problems are "refreshing", positioning, and sizing problems since they have had to take over these from the standard GUI APIs and don't do them correct in all cases.

For instance when Quicken starts in maximized mode the size of the main window is slightly to small.  And then after it gets initialized it resizes to a bit larger, I believe this is because at first it doesn't know about the Windows 10 border shading.  It is also the reason that there have been complaints that one certainly multiple display setups it overlaps a second screen when maximized.

You also get this quirky buttons.
Here is Quicken.

Here is a normal application.


First off notice the color.  Quicken ignores the Windows 10 setting for the colors I want (MS Outlook does the same).  But notice that Quicken's are smaller than the "space available", that is because there is that "border" around the whole window.

And just for reference here is Outlook.

Chris_QPW

The problem is Quicken, or more exactly how the Quicken Inc decided to muck with the main window to put some controls where they aren't supported by the standard APIs.  These controls:


Yes, Microsoft puts such controls in their products all the time, but they have the resources (access to GUI low level coders) to do it right.

There isn't a standard API for doing this so when Quicken Inc decided to do this they basically create a new window that they paint over the built in one.

This causes all kinds of different problems.  One is the lag to move/resize the window that you mention.

Other problems are "refreshing", positioning, and sizing problems since they have had to take over these from the standard GUI APIs and don't do them correct in all cases.

For instance when Quicken starts in maximized mode the size of the main window is slightly to small.  And then after it gets initialized it resizes to a bit larger, I believe this is because at first it doesn't know about the Windows 10 border shading.  It is also the reason that there have been complaints that one certainly multiple display setups it overlaps a second screen when maximized.

You also get this quirky buttons.
Here is Quicken.

Here is a normal application.


First off notice the color.  Quicken ignores the Windows 10 setting for the colors I want (MS Outlook does the same).  But notice that Quicken's are smaller than the "space available", that is because there is that "border" around the whole window.

And just for reference here is Outlook.

DavidJ

Thanks Chris. While I can't see the differences you've pointed out in my color scheme (or lack of one) I understand what your referring to. Has there been any discussion or acknowledgement of this issue by Quicken, and or a potential resolution?

Chris_QPW

@DavidJ I would say, don't expect any changes.  It has been pointed out many times that they shouldn't do it this way and they don't care.   To them the main thing is that Quicken "looks like" it works like what Microsoft can do.