Moving Quicken UK 2004 to new machine Windows 10

Barbara230

Currently running Quicken 2004 on Windows10 in Windows7 compatibility mode. Tried to move it to a new machine by copying folder containing Quicken across to new machine. It no longer works. Any ideas please?
I am in the UK and can no longer buy Quicken.

Rocket J Squirrel

You need to install Quicken on the new PC. Just copying won't do the job. Do you still have your installation medium, probably a CD but perhaps a download? If so, run that and then, before actually running Quicken, patch it to its last release. The patch is available here:
http://www.quicknperlwiz.com/quicken-2004-patches.html

Barbara230

Thanks. My installation medium is for a very old copy of Quicken. Can I still download 2004?

volvogirl

Are you running the UK 2004 version or the US 2004?  

Some posts about XG version and UK.  2004 was the last XG version.  It expired after 10 years. Some of the link in these old posts might not work anymore, especially if they go to the old Intuit forums that were before Quicken was sold.  If you want more you can search for XG in the forum….. 

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/7852885/quicken-xg-licence-expired-how-can-i-convert-qdf-to-qif 

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/19982884#Comment_19982884 

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/18980442#Comment_18980442 

One comment I found says……

Quicken/Intuit pulled out of the UK market ~2004, so the version is at least that old. Conversions from 1) very old versions of Quicken without going through new versions, and 2) from foreign versions of Quicken can both lead to data integrity issues.

The US versions of Quicken only support imports of older US formats. The other versions (Quicken for the UK or Australian market) might be similar, but are not the same.

Barbara230

Thanks , my version is UK20004R2. I have tried to reinstall it but missing some dll files which I have now copied into the Quicken folder, so far no luck.

Barbara230

Thanks everyone. One more dll was missing and I have copied it over. All is working again. Such a good programme I would be happy to re-purchase if there was a UK version.

volvogirl

Glad you got it working.  Surprised it still works after it expired in 2014.  

Chris_QPW

The UK version doesn't expire.  It is the Australian version that expires.

What happens with the DLLs is that at programs are dependent on certain Windows DLLs.  Sometimes these get installed with the program, but other are so "fundamental" to Windows they are just assumed to already be installed by Windows.  As time goes on and Windows is changed, they aren't there by default any more.

@volvogirl all the links in your post seem to have been archived and as such the average user can't view them.  Maybe a moderator can make them available again.  But the XG version was a Canadian version.


On the subject of getting a newer version for someone in UK, I think the best version would be Quicken Windows US 2013, which you can get for free from this link.
Convert Data From an Earlier Version of Quicken (When to Use an Intermediate Version) | Quicken


The difficult part is converting it.  I have seen some reports that it will actually read the UK data file, and some that it didn't work for them.  Exporting/Importing a QIF file is the next possible way, but because of Quicken's poor matching of transfers about the only good way to do that is convert the transfers to regular categories in the exported QIF file.  This results in the transfers not being linked, but the accounting still works find just like it would in the original double book system.
http://www.quicknperlwiz.com/changetransfers.html

The 2013 is best version for your purposes in my opinion.  It has multiple currency support so it will work with the UK pound.  The tax reports won't be right, and there isn't any support of automatic downloading, but you don't have in any version of Quicken.  You can download and import QIF files.

Quicken US 2013 is the last version before they started using an Quicken Id (or Intuit Id), so it is completely "offline" unlike versions after this point.  It is new enough that you don't have to run it in any kind of compatibility mode.

Barbara230

Thanks for this, I will look into the US 2013 version.

volvogirl

Here's a FYI - If your Quicken was before 2010 you should have several files making up the data.  The main data file ends in .QDF.  All Quicken versions prior to QW2010 store your data in a series of files all sharing the same filename but with different extensions like  - .QDF .IDX, .QEL, .QPH  and all 4 of those files were rolled into a single-file .QDF starting in 2010. 

Barbara230

Thanks again for all your advice. I have tried to import my data into Quicken 2013 but with no success. It will not take back-up files from the UK or German versions! Using the QIF file export/import method, the date format between US and UK causes a problem. I guess it could be done with a lot of work. I will probably stick with the 2004 version, a pity because the later version looks a lot better.

Chris_QPW

Running your QIF file through my program CleanQIF will fix the dates:
http://www.quicknperlwiz.com/cleanqif.html

Chris_QPW

P.S. Quicken US always requires the dates in QIF files to be in MDY format, but once in Quicken the format used in the registers/reports depends on your Windows short date format.

Chris_QPW

Here's another conversion possibility from someone that sent me an email on it; assuming Microsoft is still offering the free version of Money 2007 (and that my memory is correct that Money can convert Quicken UK files).

 

- Backup the existing Quicken file

- Validate the existing Quicken file 

- Download/Install M2007

- Run M2007

- Go to File > Convert Quicken File

- Manually verify that the conversion worked

- If there are any retirement accounts, make them non-retirement accounts 

- Run Q2013

- Go to File > New Quicken File and create a new/empty Quicken file

- In the new Quicken file, go to File > Import > Money

- Select the Money file created above (it will have a .MNY file extension)

 

Barbara230

Thanks again. I have converted the qif data file through your programme which has fixed the dates. There are still quite a few anomalies which I am working on.

Chris_QPW

Barbara230 said:

Thanks again. I have converted the qif data file through your programme which has fixed the dates. There are still quite a few anomalies which I am working on.

Did you use ChangeTransfers as I suggested in my first comment?

Most likely the problems stems from the fact that Quicken is terrible at dealing with the transfers.
The best approach I have found for that is to change the transfers into regular categories.  That breaks the linking, but from an accounting stand point it is still valid.