Why in 2025 is Quicken Classic still 32bit

Kevinky
Kevinky Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭

Why in 2025 is Quicken Classic Still 32 bit application

This program is unacceptably slow even on a very quick desktop.

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  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭

    Lots of reasons not to do it, and no real reason to do it. 64-bits doesn’t magically make a program faster.

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  • fciani
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    I totally agree. My file is only 59 MB. Quicken has slowed dramatically recently.

  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭

    My data file is 165 MB with no performance problems. The size of the data file has zero impact on the performance, just as changing from 32-bit to 64-bit would have no impact. Performance problems that people are having have more to do with things like corrupted data files, machine problems or what the code is doing than how many bits the instructions are using.

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  • Snorkle
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    I have go along with @Chris_QPW. Quicken has a lot of issues, but performance for me is not anywhere close to being one of them. I am currently running Windows 11 on 32 GB RAM, SSD and a 600 mbs internet connection. My data file may not qualify as large but it contains transactions from 2009.

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  • Chuck56
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    Mine is 300+ mb and no issues

  • BK
    BK Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23

    Ditto what @Chris_QPW wrote. The performance of mine is solid. I rather seem them improve and crush bugs instead. 64bit does not automatically make things faster, and to that point, I use 32bit version of Adobe because it runs faster!

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  • Kevinky
    Kevinky Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭

    No real reasons for Quicken to upgrade to 64 bit? None? Zero?

  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭

    No there isn't a good reason to go to 64-bit, and there are reasons not to do it.

    The main reason not to do it is the fact that Quicken Windows is a very old program that most likely using old libraries that are only available in 32-bit. For instance, the database is going to be 32-bit and no longer supported. It would probably take a full rewrite of Quicken Windows to switch. And I will say that some people might think the database is slow. From all the things I can test it isn't. The bottlenecks seem to be more in the fact that Quicken doesn't take advantage of multiple threads and also poorly a designed GUI in certain areas like the investment register. I do think that if Quicken Inc decided to spend more time cleaning up this and finding the problem areas, they could improve it, but that is more about cleaning up the existing code, not just changing to 64-bit.

    Also, it used to be a bad idea because since some people were running 32-bit versions of Windows which can only run 32-bit programs, they would have had to put out both the 32-bit and the 64-bit, doubling their work. But I think that time has passed.

    Recompiling using 64-bits if even possible doesn't magically increase the speed of a program, but one thing I could certainly do is introduce bugs that are caused by a programmer assuming that certain variables are of a certain size.

    So, you have increased work, no real payoff, and possible added bugs and maybe not even possible without rewriting major parts of the program.

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  • Chris_QPW
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    Here is a post in another thread talking about AI, and I think its description of what really is involved in going from 32-bits to 64-bits, is quite a good summary. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that Quicken is definitely going to have parts like its database that don't have a 64-bit version and would have to be totally replaced.

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