What is the best way to use Quicken to track activities and contributions on a Donor Advised Fund at
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Q user since February, 1990. DOS Version 4
Now running Quicken Windows Subscription, Business & Personal
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I would still keep the DAF in the same Quicken data file. You'll be making direct deposits to it in the future I presume, and use of linked accounts to track your deposits into it is much easier, accurate, and better record keeping if that's the case. You can always eliminate the account itself in any Q reports if you care to exclude it to see your net worth and such.1
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I would still keep the DAF in the same Quicken data file. You'll be making direct deposits to it in the future I presume, and use of linked accounts to track your deposits into it is much easier, accurate, and better record keeping if that's the case. You can always eliminate the account itself in any Q reports if you care to exclude it to see your net worth and such.1
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BUT, the DAF has different ownership than the OP ... and it's ill-advised to keep property owned by more than 1 legal entity in the same file.I would still keep the DAF in the same Quicken data file. You'll be making direct deposits to it in the future I presume, and use of linked accounts to track your deposits into it is much easier, accurate, and better record keeping if that's the case. You can always eliminate the account itself in any Q reports if you care to exclude it to see your net worth and such.
Repeating, the initial funding of the DAF is a Taxable Event ... NOT a transfer to another account. It should be recorded as an EXPENSE, to a Charitable expense category.Q user since February, 1990. DOS Version 4
Now running Quicken Windows Subscription, Business & Personal
Retired "Certified Information Systems Auditor" & Bank Audit VP0 -
So first things first, what one does in Q relating to taxes is *strictly* informational for that user, and has no bearing on any 'official' IRS-related activities. The IRS would give no hoot to where the records within Q are kept, or all. There's no 'right way and wrong way' (endlessly we debate whether one should split a credit card payment into the pieces upon payment of the card balance, or created a separate credit card account and do that upon the actual charge date in real time and simply transfer the payment at the time you pay the bill.)I would still keep the DAF in the same Quicken data file. You'll be making direct deposits to it in the future I presume, and use of linked accounts to track your deposits into it is much easier, accurate, and better record keeping if that's the case. You can always eliminate the account itself in any Q reports if you care to exclude it to see your net worth and such.
While I agree that generally having a separate QDF account is generally preferable in such matters (for example, in sole proprietorship when you don't want to co-mingle your personal money with your business money), in this case I still maintain for your own purposes it is easier and more accurate to do so and a single transaction takes the money out of one account and automatically puts it into the other.
As far as the tax issue about an 'expense' or a transfer, one can set up the receiving DAF account (within the same Quicken data file) and mark the account as tax-related (within the ACCOUNTS/GENERAL panel). You set your "transfers in" with a specific tax schedule (I would assume "Schedule A:Cash Charity Contributions"). I believe (I don't export Q to any tax software so in this regard I am not 100% of this, but I would put money on it in a bet with even odds) that this accomplishes the same thing as recording the category as a tax-related expense and maintaining a seperate account as you suggest. Any reports or exporting (perhaps into TurboTax) of your single file for tax-related activities would pick up the contribution for tax purposes in this regard. Same for running any tax schedule reports.
But again, whatever way one wishes to use Q is strictly for the user's benefit. I can agree to disagree.1 -
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I Have a DAF fund with Fidelity Charitable for donating appreciated stock primarily. I set up Fidelity Charitable as an Asset, a special one that I direct but do not own. While I have funds in it, it should show on my net worth. When I donate stock, I use the remove option on the stock account so that it just disappears. Then I make a transaction on the asset for the contribution using the value I get from Fidelity on the contribution. When I make DAF grants, I make a grant transaction reducing the value of the asset by the grant amount. So I can select Contribution and grant transactions separately. Also, since these funds are invested with Fidelity Charitable I can make a balance adjustment any day on the current value of the fund showing the earnings and the losses. Contributions use a category code of FidelityCharitable within my Charitable contributions, Grants use another category that is not used for tax but used just for informational purposes, Earnings or losses come from the balance adjustment of the asset.4