I am starting new Quicken, not my investment accounts. Do I really have to enter the cost of every s

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edited January 2019 in Investing (Windows)
I am starting new with Quicken, not my investment accounts. Do I really have to enter the cost of every mutual fund I've purchased (over 15+ years)?!?

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  • GeoffG
    GeoffG Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
  • mshiggins
    mshiggins Quicken Windows 2017 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Assuming you still have those mutual funds, adding the costs or entering all the transaction history enables you to do more accurate and comprehensive investment performance reporting. It can also be helpful at tax time if you sell any of those mutual funds.

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  • Tom Young
    Tom Young Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
  • splasher
    splasher Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Capital gains is either long or short term, right?  If you agree with that, you could lump all of the long term CG transactions into a single transaction for each mutual fund nd then only enter the detail for short term CG.  In other words, lump the transactions over a year old into a single transaction.

    Your networth over time will not be correct until the most recent history and the performance figures will be off in past years.

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  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited January 2019
  • Eddy Gil
    Eddy Gil Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
  • q_lurker
    q_lurker Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    Slightly OT, but a question to those folks that suggested doing the complete adding of all the old transactions (for example from one post above: "That should give you absolutely correct 'current' information which
    means that all future transaction, especially sales, will be properly
    reported.".)

    Since most of the FIs are mandated to report cost basis and long and short terms sale information now on sales if they have that information (and this might be the key...a big 'IF'), how necessary is it that you make Q as accurate as you can for reporting capital gains/losses?   Since the values I (and my accountant) use are what are contained on the 1099s, whatever QUICKEN deems 'accurate' has little to do with what I'd be using on my Sch D.

    Comments?

    Valid point.  But going back 15 years predates the 'covered' / 'uncovered' definitions.  I believe for Vanguard, if the fund was initially uncovered (not reported in detail for 1099s) then it remains uncovered since, even subsequent purchases and reinvestments.  

    For myself, I like having a Quicken as an aggregation of assets across multiple brokerages.  Each brokerage individually can tell me cap gains status at any point.  Quicken tells me my status for all of them.  I don't demand that it be 100% precise, but I want to be close enough for end-of-year decision making (and any other time).  

    Finally, I also want Quicken as a 'cross-check' on the other sources.  Differences are becoming less, but I have over the years spotted errors on the brokerages part.  

    The original question all comes down to: How does the user want Quicken to work for them?  Taxes, history, investment performance, future projection, other?
  • mshiggins
    mshiggins Quicken Windows 2017 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    Slightly OT, but a question to those folks that suggested doing the complete adding of all the old transactions (for example from one post above: "That should give you absolutely correct 'current' information which
    means that all future transaction, especially sales, will be properly
    reported.".)

    Since most of the FIs are mandated to report cost basis and long and short terms sale information now on sales if they have that information (and this might be the key...a big 'IF'), how necessary is it that you make Q as accurate as you can for reporting capital gains/losses?   Since the values I (and my accountant) use are what are contained on the 1099s, whatever QUICKEN deems 'accurate' has little to do with what I'd be using on my Sch D.

    Comments?

    Agreed on all of q.lurker's points. Especially re: the brokerages not always getting it right.

    Quicken user since Q1999. Currently using QW2017.
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  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited May 2020

    Slightly OT, but a question to those folks that suggested doing the complete adding of all the old transactions (for example from one post above: "That should give you absolutely correct 'current' information which
    means that all future transaction, especially sales, will be properly
    reported.".)

    Since most of the FIs are mandated to report cost basis and long and short terms sale information now on sales if they have that information (and this might be the key...a big 'IF'), how necessary is it that you make Q as accurate as you can for reporting capital gains/losses?   Since the values I (and my accountant) use are what are contained on the 1099s, whatever QUICKEN deems 'accurate' has little to do with what I'd be using on my Sch D.

    Comments?

    And yes, valid point on the 15 years you cite as well.  I have also entered all my information as accurately as possible over the years, but on certain change of share classes, return of capital, etc., I haven't always gotten it correct I'm sure.
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