Mutual fund share conversion for Mac

Geoff Green
Geoff Green Member ✭✭
edited October 2023 in Investments
Quicken Windows appears to have a very convenient feature for recording mutual fund share conversions so that you retain cost basis history. Please add this to the Mac software. Thanks!
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  • Bryan116
    Bryan116 Member ✭✭
    edited August 2023

    Add a tool to convert mutual funds from one share class to another — as the windows version has.

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  • contact_robert
    contact_robert Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 2023

    i agree. This is a common type of transaction - no reason that Quicken for Mac should not be able to do this.

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  • billeye10
    billeye10 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 2023

    YES. Please add the function to mutual fund share conversions

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  • jacobs
    jacobs Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    edited August 2023

    It's a shortcoming of Quicken Mac which requires the user to manually jump through hoops. This should be implemented in Quicken Mac.

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  • Quicken Jasmine
    Quicken Jasmine Quicken Mac Subscription Moderator mod

    Hello All,

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  • jacobs
    jacobs Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    edited August 2023

    Not everyone uses a brokerage which has multiple classes of shares for the same fund, as Vanguard does. But for those of us who do, and have to deal with trying to record in Quicken a change from "Investor" shares to "Admiral" shares (or similar with other brokerages), it's a source of great frustration that there is no such tool in Quicken Mac. Especially when we learn that it is a feature in Quicken Windows, and the CEO long ago promised efforts to move Quicken Mac towards relative parity with Quicken Windows.

    For anyone who might not understand this request, the details are pretty simple. Some brokerages will have two (or more) classes of a specific fund. The higher-level shares — "Admiral" class at Vanguard — are for investors with a larger balance in the fund, who are rewarded with a slightly lower management fee resulting in slightly higher earnings.

    The problem for Quicken is that the share price of the basic ("Investor" class at Vanguard) share and the higher level shares are usually different, and the ticker symbols are different, so you have to create the new high-level security and move the dollar value of your holdings into that security. You can't do a Sell transaction from one fund and a Buy in the other fund, because that generates taxable income and resets your cost basis — which is not the case in the real-world transaction. You can only do a Remove Shares and and Add Shares transaction to avoid any income from being recognized, but doing so leaves behind your individual lots and original cost basis. Unless you do a Remove Shares and a Buy Shares transaction for every single purchase and reinvestment in the original account back to the beginning of your investments in the account — a tedious process at best and a nearly impossible one if you've held the account for some time and have lots of reinvestment transactions in the account. (This generally isn't a problem in a retirement account, where cost basis doesn't matter, but it's a big issue in a non-retirement investment account.)

    Quicken Windows apparently has a Mutual Fund Conversion menu option which automatically creates all the Remove Shares and Buy Shares transactions at the press of a button. Quicken Mac investors need the same functionality! And the Quicken Mac developers already created similar functionality for moving a security from one brokerage account to another (for example, if you move an account from Vanguard to Schwab). In this case, we need to move from one security to another, within the same account. The process is the same, but the current user interface for Transfer Shares doesn't allow for this use case.

    If you care abbot Quicken maintaining your correct cost basis and gains/losses, and if you use or might in the future use a brokerage company which has multiple cases of shares for its funds, please vote for this feature by scrolling to the top of this screen and clicking the little dark arrow in the yellow box under the first post.

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  • billeye10
    billeye10 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭✭

    This too would make my accounting for shares and price much easier. 👍️

  • QknUser204
    QknUser204 Quicken Mac Subscription Member

    Please add the Quicken Mac Mutual Fund Conversion feature by mid-2024. As you can see in this request, customers have been waiting for this important feature for many years. Mutual fund companies often perform conversions automatically. The Mutual Fund Conversion feature is critical to ensure our Quicken Mac investment data is accurate. Thank you

  • jacobs
    jacobs Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta

    @QuickenUser204 Asking for a particular feature to be implemented within a short timeframe is almost always an exercise in frustration or disappointment. This particular feature request has only 18 votes and this time, and it takes 30+ just to be passed on to the developers for evaluation and consideration.

    If this Idea thread gets to 30 votes, the time frame for evaluation and acceptance can range from a few weeks to a year or more, and once marked as “Planned”, it can take 6 months to a few years until ia feature is implemented. It’s simply because there are many, many good and important feature requests, and the developers can only knock off a handful of them every few months.

    So the first step in this process is for users who want to see this feature implemented to add their vote at the top of this thread. The sooner that happens, the faster this feature request can get inserted into the development queue.

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