My save button suddenly disappeared.

tmarra01

My save button suddenly disappeared. In my register It seems to have changed into an Icon. I'd like to change it back to a displayed button. I've tried many of the suggestions but it hasn't helped.

Boatnmaniac

That "Save" button in Quicken for Windows was changed to a save icon (similar to what is found in many programs nowadays) with the recent update (I can't remember if it was with R27.20 or R27.24).  When you hover your cursor over the icon "Save" will pop up but it's not the same look. 

I prefer the save button, myself, too.  I don't think we can change it back without reverting to an earlier revision...at least I haven't found a way to do that either. But I won't revert to an earlier revision since R27.20/R27.24 fixed a lot of issues and added some nice new features (like Investing Dashboard).

UKR

ewkrone said:

I have Quicken R27.28 and the small save icon is too small. I have to click several times, re-aiming the pointer each time, before the transaction is finally saved. Please change it back to the word "Save" or some other larger button. I have always been happy with the "Save" button. Why even change it in the first place.......

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Boatnmaniac

That "Save" button in Quicken for Windows was changed to a save icon (similar to what is found in many programs nowadays) with the recent update (I can't remember if it was with R27.20 or R27.24).  When you hover your cursor over the icon "Save" will pop up but it's not the same look. 

I prefer the save button, myself, too.  I don't think we can change it back without reverting to an earlier revision...at least I haven't found a way to do that either. But I won't revert to an earlier revision since R27.20/R27.24 fixed a lot of issues and added some nice new features (like Investing Dashboard).

tmarra01

Thanks, I figured it was recently changed and just noticed it changed after an update today.

Unknown

Same here. Why break something that already works. I do not like the fact that I must double click the save icon. How can I change it to a single click?

Gerry429

Yes. Please either restore the save button, or make the green "save" icon larger. It's too small, and slows up my daily work in Quicken.

Boatnmaniac

@Gerry429 - You can suggest this change at Product Enhancements (Windows).  Click on New Idea to get started.  Once you've entered your idea be sure to click on the Vote button. 

Quicken does monitor this page and the more people who vote for an idea the more likely that they will put it into their development plan for a future update.  There's no guarantees that they will put it into the development plan but we probably won't get something we don't ask for.

GLE81342

Well, after the update R27.24 there is a change in the checking register. There was a save button in the lower right corner to use after making each new transaction. Now it appears it has been changed to a little green box that looks like a floppy disc. If I am correct that it is a floppy disc icon, floppy discs haven't been used in years why has the more simple save button been changed????
I have been the treasurer of my church for 15 years and in the event that I am no longer able to do this, I have been writing a manual of all the steps that I do to keep records and pay bills that are necessary for my position. I feel like if it isn't broke why change things in Quicken to make it more complicated to view. The save button spoke for itself. After the update I looked and looked for it, seeing the little green box that was new to me I clicked on it and found it had replaced the save button.
What in the world is the purpose for this change???? I feel it is very unnecessary!!!!! It is of no benefit at all !!!!!

Boatnmaniac

@GLE81342 - Your post was merged into another recent thread on this subject.  Please review the above.  In my last post in this thread I'd suggested that a New Idea post be made if this is a desired change so that users can vote for it and it then has an opportunity to get perhaps get placed into Quicken's development plans.  I did not see that this has been done so feel free to post it yourself.  If you do this, please reply to this post thread so the others can go there and vote for it if they wish to. 

ewkrone

Does anyone else have issues with the new size of the "save" button? I have to "aim" several times to find the right place on the button for it to activate and save my transaction... Very annoying.... In the older version it wasn't an icon, but simply the word "Save" and I never had an issue. How can we get this modified?

Boatnmaniac

@ewkrone - There have been other posts about this that have been merged together at https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/20102538#Comment_20102538.  I've requested that your post be merged with it.  Please review it.  I still don't see the requested change posted as a product enhancement as I'd suggested so if this is something you really want changed then post it at the link in this merged post string.

ewkrone

Thank you. I appreciate your quick response and the link. I will request it.....

ewkrone

I have Quicken R27.28 and the small save icon is too small. I have to click several times, re-aiming the pointer each time, before the transaction is finally saved. Please change it back to the word "Save" or some other larger button. I have always been happy with the "Save" button. Why even change it in the first place.......

UKR

ewkrone said:

I have Quicken R27.28 and the small save icon is too small. I have to click several times, re-aiming the pointer each time, before the transaction is finally saved. Please change it back to the word "Save" or some other larger button. I have always been happy with the "Save" button. Why even change it in the first place.......

Please review this discussion and the final response by a Quicken moderator:
ALT-A no longer an option — Quicken

Charles Hadlock

I agree. The new green "save" icon is too small.

UKR

Please remember that, as an alternative to clicking the Save icon with your mouse, you can always use the Enter key* (or press CTRL-Enter) to save your transaction.

* The setting of "use Enter key to move between fields" in Edit / Preferences / Data Entry and Quickfill determines what you can do:
Not enabled: Tab - Tab from field to field in a register, press Enter to save transaction
Enabled: Press Enter to move from field to field, press CTRL-Enter to save transaction.

Chris_QPW

Charles Hadlock said:

I agree. The new green "save" icon is too small.

The ironic part of this is I will bet that one of the motivations for changing the save button was to make it smaller as to save space and to make it the same size as the other buttons in the column.

Rocket J Squirrel

Remember back when the button was labeled Enter? Q folks decided that was too long to fit in the space and changed it to Save just so it would fit.

Now, it's what? An anachronistic floppy disk? Who even remembers what that's supposed to mean? Backup to floppy? Save to floppy?

Boatnmaniac

Rocket J Squirrel said:

Remember back when the button was labeled Enter? Q folks decided that was too long to fit in the space and changed it to Save just so it would fit.

Now, it's what? An anachronistic floppy disk? Who even remembers what that's supposed to mean? Backup to floppy? Save to floppy?

Yeah, I get a kick out of that.  But it seems the floppy disc image has become to saving files what Kleenex is to facial tissues.  It's interesting to listen to people in the <40 age group who know that a floppy disc image is for saving a file but don't even know what a floppy disc is! 

volvogirl

I'm an old user and just have QW2013 but I enjoy reading all the forum posts.  Could someone post a screen shot of the new green floppy save icon for me to see what you're all talking about?  I did use floppies.  Had a Vic20 and Commodore 64, etc.  I was keypunch operator and punched little square holes in the IBM cards.  Still have a stack of them for notepads.

Chris_QPW

Boatnmaniac said:

It's interesting to listen to people in the <40 age group who know that a floppy disc image is for saving a file but don't even know what a floppy disc is!   

And I'm sure they use vanilla folders at their desk to organize all their documents.  

People love to talk about this or that being "intuitive", but the truth is that it is all just learned, and when you change anything, you are going to have people react to it.

Greg_the_Geek

Quicken Hugh

Skeuomorph design is used within Quicken. Green floppy disk, vanilla folder symbol, postal address formatting, the "gear" symbol, the "+" symbol - all variations on the theme.

Why does Quicken use skeuomorphs? It works well for most people in most circumstances, and is it a very common graphic user interface design.

Sorry @volvogirl, we haven't figure out a way to incorporate a punch card skeuomorph design into Quicken yet! 

Rocket J Squirrel

Always happy to learn a new word.

The link supplied by @Quicken Hugh turns up this:

Rocket J Squirrel

Boatnmaniac said:

It's interesting to listen to people in the <40 age group who know that a floppy disc image is for saving a file but don't even know what a floppy disc is! 

I saw a cartoon not long ago where an older person is holding an actual floppy in his hand. The younger person says, "Wow, you laser-printed a Save icon!"

Quicken Hugh

@Rocket J Squirrel - Please be sure to read the next sentence too.

Rocket J Squirrel

I read it, @Quicken Hugh . The specific problem here is that the icon is tiny and green. I really had to squint at it to decide it was a floppy. And a 5.25" floppy, at that! And why green? I don't believe I've ever seen a green 5.25" floppy.

Rocket J Squirrel

Aside: In the old days, we just called them "icons." Here is the first Xerox Star print ad from 1981, which sits framed in my office. Note the yellow highlighted text. Also note the bar chart on the happy user's screen. I wrote the code that implemented that bar chart.

Quicken Hugh

@Rocket J Squirrel. We are happy to receive the feedback that the image is too small. I will submit a product enhancement request about this concern.

I don't have any old green disks on hand, but there have been variations on the theme. At the end of the day, it's got to be some color. Green is nice, yes? (There is rather quite a bit of information about color theory in design. I'll let you go down that rabbit hole by yourself.)

Rocket J Squirrel

The Save icon is actually a representation of the older 5.25" generation of floppy. Unlike the 3.5" ones in your photo, these were actually flexible. And less likely to be recognized. Who still remembers 8" floppies?

I'm further going to take issue with the sentence from the referenced article:

Proponents, on the other hand, argue that humans can never become as accustomed to the digital world as we are to the physical world—so, simple skeuomorphism will continue to be helpful.

I don't know when that was written, but we have humans alive today who are at least as, and possibly more, accustomed to the digital world than to the physical.

Chris_QPW

Rocket J Squirrel said:

I read it, @Quicken Hugh . The specific problem here is that the icon is tiny and green. I really had to squint at it to decide it was a floppy. And a 5.25" floppy, at that! And why green? I don't believe I've ever seen a green 5.25" floppy.

Clearly this is the most "modern" floppy disk (3 1/2" like from @""Quicken Hugh" image).   Notice the corner?





BTW on its own, this icon is very "jarring", since it is the only one that is colored.