Quicken Mac needs a visual indicator when there are multiple open windows

jacobs
jacobs SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
edited November 2020 in Display/UI (Mac)
Quicken needs some way to indicate to users -- especially on re-launch -- when there are one or more windows open in addition to the main window. 

The problem some Quicken users run into is that Quicken appears to be running slowly at times, and it turns out to be because of open windows hiding behind the main window. If there are reports open which need to recalculate after every transaction edit or entry is saved, it can make Quicken run slowly -- and there's no visual indication to users. Worse, because window positions are persistent and restored upon relaunch a user re-launching Quicken can be completely unaware that they have one or multiple windows open behind the main window each time they launch.

This has bit me any number of times, but I know what to look for if I sense sluggishness, but many users don't know to look for open windows behind the main one. The solution can't be too distracting or disruptive -- because some users intentionally leave multiple windows open in different positions across sessions -- yet needs to call attention to the open windows upon launching.
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  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Member ✭✭✭✭
    For what is worth this is how Quicken Windows handles it (the standard Windows multiple document application way).

    First off all windows that Quicken creates always appear over the main window.


    Next at the bottom of the main window you have this:


    If the user needs to see something on the main window that the sub window is blocking, they either move the sub window or minimize it.  Clicking on one of the above buttons restores them.
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  • jacobs
    jacobs SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    Thanks, Chris. The problem with Quicken Mac is that while new windows open on top of the main window, one click on the main window can then hide them behind the main window. The main window occupies a lot of space, and can't be reduced in size on a laptop screen less than about 2/3 of the screen width. Once a window is positioned behind the main screen, if you quit Quicken and relaunch, the same window opens behind the main window. If the window is a report which needs to recalculate after editing every transaction, there can be a lag. Several open reports, the lag gets worse. 

    The key difference is the Windows main screen shows the open windows at the bottom. That's a Windows UI thing not often seen in Mac applications… although Mac users see it in the Chrome browser when they do multiple downloads. In Quicken Mac, you can see you have other windows open if you think to pull down the Window menu.

    macOS has a concept of tabs, and Quicken Mac has the ability to open a Tab Bar -- but it doesn't work (as best I can tell) for opening accounts or reports in tabs rather than windows. New windows open as windows, not tabs, and there's no way to merge windows into other windows as tabs. 
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  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Member ✭✭✭✭
    jacobs said:
    Once a window is positioned behind the main screen, if you quit Quicken and relaunch, the same window opens behind the main window.
    Well it seems like one fix they should make is that at startup force the sub windows to be above the main one.
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  • FarmBoy
    FarmBoy Member ✭✭
    The entire problem would be solved if Q would use tabs instead of new windows. I do not see an option for viewing a Tab Bar.
  • jacobs
    jacobs SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    @FarmBoy  Quicken Mac does support tabs, although it's not the cleanest most intuitive design currently. The first thing to know is that the main window cannot appear in a tab; it will always be stand-alone. But any registers, reports and/or budgets you want to open in tabbed windows can be accomplished.

    Open a register, report or budget in its own window. (Reports automatically open in a new window. Registers: double-click int he left sidebar to open in a new window. Budget: open your budget in the main window, then select View > Open in New Window.)
    Once a window is opened, you can select View > Show Tab Bar. 
    Open another window. Drag the tab bar of one window to the tab bar of another, and they'll be merged in one window with two tabs. Repeat as desired to add more tabs.

    Unfortunately, when you quite Quicken and come back to re-launch it, the windows open separately; you have to drag them together again into one window.

    So… somewhat useful, but it seems like tabs weren't given much attention in the latest UI tweaks for the 6.x release.


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