Why are stock and mutual fund return figures inaccurate?

Loren
Loren Member ✭✭
Currently the YTD numbers appear accurate but the 3 Yr and 5 Yr numbers are totally inaccurate. Why is accurate information not available?

Answers

  • NotACPA
    NotACPA SuperUser, Windows Beta Beta
    Because the 3 & 5 yr numbers are downloaded, not calculated ...  and they include periods where you might not have owned the security.
    Q user since DOS version 5
    Now running Quicken Windows Subscription,  Home & Business
    Retired "Certified Information Systems Auditor" & Bank Audit VP
  • Loren
    Loren Member ✭✭
    I realize they are downloaded....that does not explain the difference. As an example, Quicken statement says VTSAX (Vanguard Total Stock Market Index) returned 22.3% (3 Yr) and 22.3% (5 Yr). Morningstar report says 18.8% (3 Yr) and 17.98% (5 Yr). Quicken statement says AGTHX (Growth Fund America) returned 32.3% (3 Yr) and 32.3% (5 Yr). Morningstar report says 20.26% (3 Yr) and 20.76% (5 Yr). These are totally inconsistent. None of the 3 and 5 year number on my Quicken statement are accurate.
  • jacobs
    jacobs SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    NotACPA said:
    Because the 3 & 5 yr numbers are downloaded, not calculated ...  and they include periods where you might not have owned the security.
    I don't think that's tue for Quicken Mac; perhaps that's a Windows thing?

    I just entered a dummy purchase of a new security dated earlier this year. Quicken downloaded 5 years of price history, but it shows -- correctly -- no value for ROI for 3 or 5 years before the security was held. 



    Quicken Mac Subscription • Quicken user since 1993
  • Loren
    Loren Member ✭✭
    You may be on to something with your comment about duration of ownership. I started using Quicken in about 1999, but Quicken for Windows. Finally in November of 2019 I converted to Quicken for the Mac. Ironically, I put off the conversion for years because I always heard that the portfolio management part of the Mac program was far inferior to the Windows version. I have found that very true. One item different is the annual returns. The Mac version uses Morningstar data (I believe) only current to the end of the prior month….the data is old. (I am not certain if this is true or not. Perhaps Quicken calculates the data?)

    Please review the attached photos. You will see my issues in the 3 and 5 year return data. When I converted from Windows I automatically downloaded all the data from Windows to the Mac Quicken version. Perhaps the software is unable to properly handle the time period thing. Maybe the Mac version cannot treat the stock purchase dates correctly due to the conversion from Windows? It is a shame it is so limited in reports and analysis information. The Windows version was so much better at portfolio management.

    Thanks for looking into this. If you have any more insight…please share it.
  • Loren
    Loren Member ✭✭
    Jacobs, after my last post I realized I was not using ROI figures. I have added those to reports. Attached are two more photos with those figures attached. The numbers are a mess. Loren
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