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I receive a monthly Annuity, how do I enter it for taxes?
Stephen R
I receive a recurring monthly Annuity check and I hope for many, many more years. How do I set it up to record properly for taxes? I have it setup as a split deposit. But it does not seem to record property.
It is for a total of $218. $112 is taxable and $106 is non-taxable.
I have the category list setup as:
Annuity Account [JC Annuity] (source) to Checking Account [Checking] (destination account)
Category - Annuity linked to 1099-R:Total pension gross distrib. (with two subcategories)
Subcategory - Annuity:Non-Tax (no IRS form assigned)
Subcategory - Annuity:Tax-Income with 1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.
How do I setup the transfer the $218 from the from the [JC Annuity] account to my checking account so it records property for taxes?
Thanks, Steve
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Chris_QPW
I have a feeling the problem resides with the split transaction.
You need to basically record both the transfer and categorize that income. This is one of the few times I think that categorizing a transfer is a valid.
A standard split like this assumes that the split lines are going to reduce the amounts.
But that isn't what you need.
The trick to get what you need is a to use [Checking], which is to say a transaction that adds/removes an amount from the register without affecting another category or account.
Sherlock
There are a few ways to handle this type of split distribution:
If all you really need is
1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.
,
the annuity account could be set with no tax schedule assigned to transfers and the distribution deposit could be a split transaction with two transfer entries from annuity account: one entry for the taxable portion and one entry for the non-taxable portion. The taxable portion entry should be associated with an appropriate tax-line item.
For example:
[JC Annuity] $112 with
1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.
[JC Annuity] $106
If you also want to track the gross distribution with
1099-R:Total pension gross distrib.,
the out bound transfers could be set for the annuity account and the distribution deposit split could use a transfer entry for the gross distribution and an offsetting transfer for the taxable portion.
For example:
[JC Annuity] $218 (
1099-R:Total pension gross distrib.)
Annuity:Tax-Income $112 (1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.)
[Checking] -$112
UKR
Do you really need to track that [JC Annuity] account and its disappearing balance?
Personally, I would treat the deposit to the [Checking] account as if it was similar to a paycheck, money coming in from the outside, with Splits for taxable and non-taxable portions only. That would be easy to do with a Scheduled Reminder which you enter into the register a day or two before Due Date. And if you know how many payments you're going to get, you can set an End Date or End after [xx] deposits on the reminder.
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Chris_QPW
I have a feeling the problem resides with the split transaction.
You need to basically record both the transfer and categorize that income. This is one of the few times I think that categorizing a transfer is a valid.
A standard split like this assumes that the split lines are going to reduce the amounts.
But that isn't what you need.
The trick to get what you need is a to use [Checking], which is to say a transaction that adds/removes an amount from the register without affecting another category or account.
Sherlock
There are a few ways to handle this type of split distribution:
If all you really need is
1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.
,
the annuity account could be set with no tax schedule assigned to transfers and the distribution deposit could be a split transaction with two transfer entries from annuity account: one entry for the taxable portion and one entry for the non-taxable portion. The taxable portion entry should be associated with an appropriate tax-line item.
For example:
[JC Annuity] $112 with
1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.
[JC Annuity] $106
If you also want to track the gross distribution with
1099-R:Total pension gross distrib.,
the out bound transfers could be set for the annuity account and the distribution deposit split could use a transfer entry for the gross distribution and an offsetting transfer for the taxable portion.
For example:
[JC Annuity] $218 (
1099-R:Total pension gross distrib.)
Annuity:Tax-Income $112 (1099-R:Total pension taxable distrib.)
[Checking] -$112
UKR
Do you really need to track that [JC Annuity] account and its disappearing balance?
Personally, I would treat the deposit to the [Checking] account as if it was similar to a paycheck, money coming in from the outside, with Splits for taxable and non-taxable portions only. That would be easy to do with a Scheduled Reminder which you enter into the register a day or two before Due Date. And if you know how many payments you're going to get, you can set an End Date or End after [xx] deposits on the reminder.
Stephen R
Many thanks to you all... I could not get my head around the negative entry. Add $218, then subtract $218. Its so simple when you see it written.
Steve
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