Employer 401(k) Match

JoeG2042
JoeG2042 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
edited August 2022 in Investing (Mac)
I recently migrated from Quicken for Windows to the Mac version. BIG change, but I am getting used to it and like it.

One thing I can't figure out, other than via a phantom deposit, is how to handle a 401(k) match from my employer into the 401(k) account I track in Quicken. The 401(k) account shows negative cash unless I update. In the Windows version paycheck setup, you could account for this within your check.

I understand there is no Paycheck Wizard in the Mac version, but this seems to be a hole that could be filled.
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  • Wayne Dibble
    Wayne Dibble Member ✭✭
    I use a scheduled phantom deposit to cover the gap, transaction is "Personal Income:Employer Match"
  • jacobs
    jacobs Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    Here's another approach you can use. First, I should ask if you already have your paycheck set up in your checking account for the amount of your net pay, with split lines for your gross pay and all the deductions from it? (Which, as I understand it, is basically what the Windows version's paycheck wizard does.) For example, here's a dummy paycheck where the gross pay is $4,000 and net pay is $2,650:


    This example shows an employee payroll deduction of $300 being transferred to a 401k account. And you need to create the employer matching contribution, which can be done with two additional split lines in the paycheck transaction. The first is to create the employer match; the second is to transfer that amount to the 401k account.

    If you want to see the employer match as income when you run reports, then use a category like Wayne suggested above: "Personal Income:Employer Match".

    If you do not want to see this as income on your reports, then use a special category called "Adjustment". Using Adjustment means the amount will not be counted as income or expense in reports; it's a way to create income or expense out of thin air. 
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  • JoeG2042
    JoeG2042 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    The issue with this approach is that it artificially inflates your gross pay.

    The Windows version of Quicken has a wizard and when you enter things like a 401k contribution, it allows for an employer match that doesn’t impact gross pay.
  • JoeG2042
    JoeG2042 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    > @Wayne Dibble said:
    > I use a scheduled phantom deposit to cover the gap, transaction is "Personal Income:Employer Match"

    This is what I will do.
  • jacobs
    jacobs Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    JoeG2042 said:
    The issue with this approach is that it artificially inflates your gross pay.
    No it doesn't. You're recording gross pay exactly as shown on your pay stub. In the sample I posted above, gross pay is $4,000.

    For the employer match, I suggested two options. The first adds to income if you want to see it as such; use a subcategory of Personal Income which is not marked as "tax related", so it won't show up on a tax report (because the employer contribution is not reported income), but will show up on a Quicken report of your income. The second option creates cash in the 401k account from the employer deposit, but does not show up as income on any reports.
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  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe this will help.  Here is what Quicken Windows is doing under the covers (it creates a split).


    And the categories:


    So, Quicken Windows is in fact doing exactly what @jacobs is suggesting.
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