Quicken for ipad

Debbiereno · February 6

would love to have Quicken for iPad. Is it in the future?

Ps56k2 · February 6

if you are looking for an APP - you can try the Quicken Mobile App that syncs with your desktop Quicken software

Debbiereno · February 6

thank you for sharing this.

jacobs · February 6

Just a quick note that there is no data migration path from desktop Quicken (now branded as Quicken Classic) to Quicken Simplifi; you'd have to start from scratch to use Quicken Simplifi.

Duba · May 12

I would give up my desktop if I could get full quicken on ipad. I vote for this (but couldn’t find out where to go to vote; hence I am leaving my comment here.

Matjaz · May 17

Me too. I use quicken since forever and love the desktop version on Mac, but the lack of a iPad version is killing me as I'm big iPad user. Companion App is just not built for iPad. Looks horrible and lacks features. At least if web version would match desktop features then I would use that one, but it is somewhere in the middle and useless.. Web app has been around for years and hasn't improved much.

jacobs · May 17

Quicken Classic is built as a desktop computer program. It's likely that some of the underlying software tools in macOS which Quicken Mac utilizes are not available to the developers on iPadOS. Even if they could get it running on iPadOS, they'd need to make a lot of user interface changes to be ideal for a finger-based interface rather than a mouse/touchpad-based interface. There are a number of places in Quicken Mac with small widgets or controls which would really need to be redesigned because pointing with a finger is less precise than pointing with a mouse.

Since there is the mobile app and the web interface (both companions to but not replacements for the desktop application) and also the separate online-only Simplifi, I think it's unlikely the developers will spend the time it would take to also build an iPadOS — and Android — version specifically to run on tablets.

retird · May 17

hum, they make wireless keyboards and mice for iPad……

jacobs · May 17

hum, they make wireless keyboards and mice for iPad…

And wireless styluses, too. But you can't design consumer software assuming people will have those hardware add-on tools which only a fraction of tablet users do.

Chris_QPW · May 17

I Don't think people really realize that unless from the start you design to have a compatible GUI the desktop GUIs and the mobile ones are completely different. It isn't a given that you can just swap out a little bit of code and be able to run on the different operating systems.

I'm working project that has an interesting twist to this kind of story. The project from the day one had a design goal of running on Windows Android and possibly iOS as such the GUI library was picked for that. And then in an ironic twist the back end code was done in c++ on Windows and then dumped for Java on Android. There are so many ways that is easy to get locked in to one operating system or another even without realizing it.

And when Intuit started to rewrite of Quicken Mac they clearly didn't have any kind of design that they were going to put things on the mobile and that made perfect sense back then.

ksboynky · May 19

I too, would like to have a stand alone app for ipad, Quicken is the ONLY reason I still have a PC and I really want to get rid of it.

MA55 · May 20

I am in agreement with others that a stand alone Quicken app for the iPad is needed and warranted. I can do every other useful productivity app, I.e., Microsoft Office, etc on my iPad. Qucken’s refusal to acknowledge or consider bringing a stand alone Quicken app for the iPad (Simplifi doesn’t do the same thing) is making me reconsider my long standing support of Quicken. There are other options out there that do work with the iPad. Come on Quicken, how about some feedback?

jacobs · May 20

@MA55 I'd note that Microsoft — a company with 200,000 employees and $236 billion in annual revenue, compared to Quicken's 200 employees and estimated $100 million in revenue — has a lot more resources than Quicken. 😂

There are some comments above in this thread that talk about the significant work it would take to bring Quicken to the iPad; I think it's also unlikely for them to create an iPad only product without one for Android tablets. And while we're free to speculate, Quicken almost never comments on their future plans.

Chris_QPW · May 21

Quicken Inc hasn't even fully finished the Quicken Mac rewrite, and now people want a full version on an iPad which is another complete rewrite. Not going to happen.

jacobs · May 21

Quicken Inc hasn't even fully finished the Quicken Mac rewrite, and now people want a full version on an iPad which is another complete rewrite. Not going to happen.

I agree it isn't likely to happen — but it wouldn't require a full re-write. While Apple has tools for porting iPad/iPhone apps to run on a Mac with little work (Catalyst), there aren't tools for the other way around. Many of the underlying software frameworks (CoreGraphics, CoreAnimation, AVFoundation, CoreData, etc.) work cross-platform, so a lot of code would not need to be rewritten. But macOS uses AppKit while iOS/iPadOS uses UIKit — two different user interface development frameworks. The devil is always in the details: there would be some code which need to be re-written for iPadOS, there would definitely need to be some changes made for the touch rather than keyboard/mouse interface of a tablet, and some of the UI would need tweaks to accommodate fat-fingered clicking versus mouse clicking. All of which seems unlikely.

And then there's the issue that this might satisfy people who want to move their Quicken from a Mac to an iPad — but what about people who use an Android tablet? Would Quicken just ignore them? Porting from iPadOS to Android would be a massive undertaking. Porting from Windows to Android would be, I'd guess, impossible due to all the old technology in Quicken Windows. So a version of Quicken Classic for iPad only would serve a niche market of a small percentage of Quicken users. And here's where we need to think about it from the company's viewpoint, not just as users: where's the return on investment in building and maintaining such a product? It either needs to attract a large influx of new users, or prevent a large number of existing users from leaving Quicken. I imagine these would both be small, not large bumps — a small number of new users, a small number of customers not lost — and not enough money to justify the time and money it would take to divert developers to building and maintaining a separate iPad version.

retird · May 21

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/20434601#Comment_20434601

hum, my opinion, Quicken and other software requires certain device specifications in order to work properly. Seems that a Quicken for iPad could specify minimum requirements too.

I would love a Quicken stand alone version for iPad as I would quickly migrate to it and have a dedicated iPad for just financial purposes.

I would like to ask if this topic can be put to a vote here to guage consumer interest…..,.

Chris_QPW · May 21

As a programmer, when I say "total rewrite" I don't necessarily mean that there isn't any code that might be reused. I'm saying that every bit of code will require a programmer to check to make sure it is usable and if not change it. One has to realize that even if I changed from C++ to Java, the "concepts" would still be "reused". And that is a lot of any project, but none of this matters in the sense that this is a tremendous amount of work that Quicken Inc clearly doesn't have the resources to do. If they had those kinds of resources, they would be much better to use them on Simplifi or Quicken Mac.

And that last sentence is what puts the nail in the coffin of this idea, it doesn't make sense to put they resources into a product that that will mostly just "trade customers". How many NEW customers will they get? That is the real question, plus of course how many they will lose from Quicken Mac/Windows if they don't do it.

Chris_QPW · May 21

@retird said:

I would like to ask if this topic can be put to a vote here to guage consumer interest…..,.

I can't find it at the moment, but this isn't a new subject, it has had an Idea/Voting, probably many times. In fact, when I went to find the Idea that people could vote on and ran into a reference on one that was archived (and not visible to non Moderators/SuperUsers).

jacobs · May 21

I would like to ask if this topic can be put to a vote here to guage consumer interest

Yes, anyone can create a new “Idea” post on the Product Ideas > Ideas for Mobile area of this site. Create a new post and let the voting begin! 😀

(As Chris mentioned, this idea has been posted for previously and the developers said it wasn’t planned. But things change, so there’s no reason not to start a new thread.)

jacobs · May 21

As a programmer, when I say "total rewrite" I don't necessarily mean that there isn't any code that might be reused. I'm saying that every bit of code will require a programmer to check to make sure it is usable and if not change it. One has to realize that even if I changed from C++ to Java, the "concepts" would still be "reused".

@Chris_QPW I think this situation is different. macOS and iPadOS are siblings; a lot of the frameworks and tools are universal. So we're not talking about re-using concepts, we're talking about reusing the existing code. For instance, it's likely that all the database code could be used pretty much untouched, because the CoreData framework is the same in macOS and iPadOS. But as you and I have each mentioned, the big "gotcha" is the different frameworks for (and in some cases, the design of) the user interface; file management is also somewhat different on desktop versus tablet.

In any case, I think we've offered some reasons why Quicken for iPad seems unlikely and don't need to keep discussing it. Users who want a Quicken for iPad product should create and vote for an Idea, and who knows what will happen in the future. Apple may add tools for macOS to iPadOS migration, particularly if they ever decide to release a touch screen Mac (as has often been rumored). Or changes in people's computing environments over time may some day make for a more compelling business case for Quicken to put in the development work; at one time it seemed the iPad might eclipse the Mac, although that's not the case today.

Chris_QPW · May 23

I was thinking about this and if Apple provides some “magical” conversion (which I doubt because GUIs don’t just magically become laid out for touch) it will mean another case where the code is locked to the operating system, instead of writing for portability to other operating systems like Android.

And people wonder why it is so hard to create portable applications.

Finlaymd · May 31

I would also like an iPad version that would sink with Mac version

jacobs · May 31

@Finlaymd There is already an iPad app which syncs with the Mac version. The app is not the full Quicken; however, but it allows you to view and enter transactions and see overviews of your spending. It's a free companion to Quicken Mac, which remains the repository of all your data and the only place to create reports and dig deeper into your data.

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