Having issue with a phantom split transaction

Francois
Francois Member ✭✭✭

Whenever I update my broker's transaction I get the message shown below.

The 1:0.6 split transaction on 6/10/2025 has already been recorded and I cannot find the 1:0.555556 split on 6/11/2025. I've tried:

  • validating and rebuilding the lots
  • super validating
  • closing the account and re-opening a new "fresh" one with no past transactions (same error message pops up)
  • I allowed the transaction and clicked OK and it keeps coming back
  • I unchecked the transaction and clicked OK and it keeps coming back
  • I looked at BYDDF historical prices and removed those around 6/10/2025

I called Quicken Support line but they wanted to me to share my screen which I'm not willing to do.

It's as if there's a hidden 1:0.555556 split on 6/11/2025 somewhere in the system that I can't find. I did a global search to no avail. I really don't know what else to do. Any suggestion?

Screenshot 2025-11-20 084659.png

Answers

  • Tom Young
    Tom Young Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭

    Apparently this has been wildly confusing:

    See if anything said over there helps.

  • Francois
    Francois Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 20

    Yep, that's my issue and no, there isn't a resolution. Maybe someone found a solution and it wasn't published?

  • Francois
    Francois Member ✭✭✭

    Has anyone figured out a way to stop the split message?

  • Quicken Kristina
    Quicken Kristina Quicken Windows Subscription Moderator mod

    Hello @Francois,

    Thank you for reaching out! The issue has already been reported and our teams are working to resolve it. Currently, there are no new updates.

    Thank you!

    (CTP-9154)

    Quicken Kristina

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  • Francois
    Francois Member ✭✭✭

    I hate to say it but we pay a substantial amount of money to Quicken. It would be nice if these issues were resolved in a timely manner. Thank you.

  • TexMike
    TexMike Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭

    I'm a Quicken user having this same problem. There's really nothing you can do. If it seems as if there is a hidden split somewhere in the system, you're right. There is. But it's one you can't see on the user side. I think I understand what caused this problem — an error in the data feed used by One Step Update. Some of the info below comes from my two earlier posts (now closed).

    Here's Some Background —

    BYD Co. Ltd. (“BYD”) has two different share classes traded in the U.S.:

    • BYDDF – Class H shares (OTC)

    • BYDDY – ADR

    Both share classes represent the same company, but they are different securities, with different tickers, different prices, different CUSIPs, and different corporate action schedules. The transactions were share dividends, not stock splits, and they belong to two different securities.

    Below is BYD's published Corporate Actions for each Share Class —

    1. BYDDF (Class H)
    • 3-for-1 share dividend
    • Ex-Dividend Date: June 10, 2025
    • Payable Date: July 29, 2025
    • Shareholders received 2 extra shares for each 1 held (total 3)
    1. BYDDY (ADR)
    • 6-for-1 share dividend
    • Ex-Dividend Date: June 11, 2025
    • Payable Date: August 13, 2025
    • Shareholders effectively received 5 extra shares for each 1 (total 6)

    Where the Error Seemed to Come From ―

    Quicken’s third-party data supplier, Morningstar, appears to have sent incorrect data to One Step Update that:

    • Treated BYDDF and BYDDY as if they were the same security
    • Applied BYDDY’s 6:1 share dividend to BYDDF
    • Labeled the transactions as stock splits instead of share dividends
    • Sent the transactions to Quicken on the ex-dividend dates, instead of the payable dates (BYDDF’s payable date was July 29, not June 10, and BYDDY's payable date was August 13, not June 11).

    What This May Have Caused Inside Quicken ―

    • BYDDY’s 6:1 share divided (the phantom split) was incorrectly downloaded into BYDDF on June 10 with a replace date of June 11, 2025 (as shown in your screen shot)
    • BYDDF’s price history was incorrectly adjusted to the split price on June 11
    • Quicken began flagging BYDDY's phantom 6:1 split as a “missing transaction” for BYDDF (again, shown in your screen shot)
    • This created a permanent “Stock Splits May Be Missing” message after every One Step Update
    • Quicken never downloaded BYDDF’s real 3:1 share dividend on July 29 (the payable date), because the incorrect June 10 data feed likely overrode it

    Bottom Line ―

    Here's my take on what seems to be happening: One Step Update pulled in wrong information from Quicken's third-party data supplier back in June, and treated the phantom BYDDY 6:1 split that you see as if it were a real split belonging to BYDDF. Once that happened, that bad split became part of Quicken’s historical data for BYDDF. Now One Step Update checks against that same incorrect history and repeatedly flags the phantom BYDDY 6:1 split as a "missing" split for BYDDF. Because of that, Quicken will continue show the alert indefinitely until there's a patch or other fix. For now, you (and I, and anyone else having this BYDDF problem) will need to keep clearing or dismissing the “Stock Splits May Be Missing” message after each One Step Update.

    I reported this issue back in June 2025. Quicken is aware of the issue. There is an open ticket (CTP-9154), but after almost six months, there is no known fix date.