Upgraded 2007 Mac to 2017 Mac, and data file won't open on Sierra

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  • smayer97
    smayer97 SuperUser, Mac Beta, Canada Beta ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    Good info to share...

    BTW, I have an ulterior motive for asking about the VM details...

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  • Unknown
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    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    More details, as requested. I am stuck on Mac Quicken 2007 running on macOS High Sierra inside of
    VMWare Workstation 14 on a ThinkPad P51 laptop running Windows 10. I have not
    found any way to upgrade Quicken because of my stock transactions.
    The prior computer was a MacBook Pro running macOS Sierra. The VMWare image
    was downloaded from Techsviewer.com and I applied the VMWare MacOS unlocker found on github. John Prewitt's comment on this GetSatisfaction Web site was the only place I found that mentioned the USB copy file trick to get the data file moved over. Since that was fixed, Quicken 2007 has been working without issue (for a few weeks), other than the registration reminder popups that I have not figured out how to get rid of since the registration process no longer works.
  • smayer97
    smayer97 SuperUser, Mac Beta, Canada Beta ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    Interesting that you are going the other way...running MacOS on Windows PC. Thanks for sharing.

    BTW, I suspect that the VMWare image is formatted with HFS+ format for the "drive" and not APFS. Is that correct?

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  • Unknown
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    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    Correct. I would assume APFS does not work inside VMWare Workstation.
  • smayer97
    smayer97 SuperUser, Mac Beta, Canada Beta ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    It should be easy to check. Simply go to the desktop of the MacOS, right-click the drive and select Get Info. If the Format says MacOS Extended, it is HFS+. If you could report back that would be useful.

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  • Unknown
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    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    I guess my answer was not clear enough. It is HFS+. If it wasn't then I couldn't use Quicken without any problems because Quicken 2007 is not compatible with APFS. To my knowledge VMWare Workstation 14 does not natively support APFS.
  • smayer97
    smayer97 SuperUser, Mac Beta, Canada Beta ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    You may be right but I know that VMWare Fusion does support APFS. I do not know much about Workstation. So the most definitive answer is to do a Get Info on the drive.

    BTW QM2007 works just fine with APFS. It is only one feature in QM2007 that does not work...the use of Auto Save Back-ups -- for more info on that, see:
    Is Quicken for Mac 2007 (QM2007) Compatible with High Sierra (macOS 10.13)?

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  • Unknown
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    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    If backups don't work with APFS then Quicken 2007 does not work fine as backups are an essential feature. Quicken 2007 on HFS+ works fine. I am not sure why anyone running Quicken 2007 would pick APFS over HFS+, not that it matters for me. I am done with Macs, other than being stuck on Quicken 2007.
  • smayer97
    smayer97 SuperUser, Mac Beta, Canada Beta ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Valerie said:

    Possibly worthless, but an update . . . :) 

    John, my original post said that 2007 DID run under Sierra on Mac #1.  But not on Mac #2 (also Sierra), which was confounding.  When I posted, 2007 didn't run on Mac #2 (Sierra), and although 2017 ran, it wouldn't populate the file data.

    Bottom line, I think the Sierra/2007/2017 mix is very buggy.  Because after playing around with it, the file opens using BOTH 2007 and 2017, on Mac #2, under Sierra!

    I will say, rather than using the data file that was brought over when I migrated my system from Mac #1 to Mac #2, today I copied the data file from Mac #1 onto a thumb drive, and loaded it onto Mac #2.  Don't know if that made the difference because it was the same file.

    All I can say is, keep trying, and maybe it'll decide to work, like it did for me.

    An aside: what a shock, going from 2007 to 2017!  I don't find the 2017 layout to be as easy to use, or as intuitive.  I hope to get used to it over time. 

    It is a good feature and a nice feature (I use it) but it is not essential as any backup software will also do an effective job. 

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