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@davekr: First, this is mostly a user-to-user forum, and none of us here have any advance knowledge about future Quicken features. And the Quicken moderators here also don't typically discuss possible future features.davekr said:I guess my comment touched a nerve?
when will the features mentioned by OP
be incorporated into Qmac 2017? 2018?
jacobs, I am painfully aware of all you have reported. perhaps it's just me, but by normalizing these missing investment performance features of previous quicken builds and asking for users to vote to get them back? well, let me turn it around, how do you view that?davekr said:I guess my comment touched a nerve?
when will the features mentioned by OP
be incorporated into Qmac 2017? 2018?
You asked a question (when will these features be added to Quicken Mac 2017 and 2018), and I answered. Then you say you already knew the answers, so I'm confused why you asked.davekr said:I guess my comment touched a nerve?
when will the features mentioned by OP
be incorporated into Qmac 2017? 2018?
But with that, it seems you do not at least acknowledge the disparate histories of the 2 platforms (Mac vs Win) vs the competition (which started MUCH later and could benefit from a different approach from the start). Having been around the longest, Quicken has more baggage to work through, as it were, and with Intuit not dedicating the needed resources, the products floundered...now they are playing catch-up...I too wish it were different and faster but it is a long road...so we either stick around for the ride and do what can be constructive to directing that or we have the choice to look elsewhere...davekr said:having been a quicken user from ~1995, I'm aware of features included in the previous builds. I am also aware fo the question the OP asked, when will these previously included features return. I am aware of the voting process to influence what & when. I am also aware of other software that offers identical products on either side of the win/mac os line, with common exchangeable file systems, feature identical. ! asked how you viewed the voting requests for previously included features, because I know of no other software that cripples one side v the other.
Feature identical? Humm.davekr said:having been a quicken user from ~1995, I'm aware of features included in the previous builds. I am also aware fo the question the OP asked, when will these previously included features return. I am aware of the voting process to influence what & when. I am also aware of other software that offers identical products on either side of the win/mac os line, with common exchangeable file systems, feature identical. ! asked how you viewed the voting requests for previously included features, because I know of no other software that cripples one side v the other.
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@davekr, you say you understand the past, but your comments indicate otherwise.davekr said:I do recognize where qmac is, I don't know how it was ever looked upon as an acceptable strategy? how did quicken's ceo look upon different platforms for win/mac? didn't the quicken ceo sit on AAPL's board for over 10 years. the original poster asked "when" not if. I too am in the "when" camp, not the if they get around to it and feel like it camp. but given that I've had posts removed on this thread, seems I have touched a nerve? I too want a FULLY FUNCTIONAL qmac but share his frustration!
maybe reading some historical and technical background might help, see the following compilation:davekr said:I fully understand that after quicken decided to create a new program architecture for mac v say ms office's path to create a mac program equal to and interchangeable to it's win version, arguably ms taking a much bigger risk, given ms basically financing the mac life line, yet they chose to not cripple one side v the other.
so here we are 20+ years later asking and excusing why there is such a vast difference in capability and no interchangeability? sorry, I agree with the OP, when is a better question than if, and a timeline shouldn't be the result of a vote, not to mention "don't hold your breathe for an interchangeable quicken file" between win/mac.
I'm going to unfollow this thread, as majority of posts here are explaining why qmac isn't equal to qwin, instead of asking why the qmac version was orphaned and developed separately yet marketed as the same?
admitting the error is the first step to making a correction, h3ll I still don't understand why my daily portfolio value change is skewed continuously when the qwin version without mistake reports accurately?
I don't get it?
@davekr: You write "I don't get it," and I've been trying to answer your questions and the issues you've raised.davekr said:I fully understand that after quicken decided to create a new program architecture for mac v say ms office's path to create a mac program equal to and interchangeable to it's win version, arguably ms taking a much bigger risk, given ms basically financing the mac life line, yet they chose to not cripple one side v the other.
so here we are 20+ years later asking and excusing why there is such a vast difference in capability and no interchangeability? sorry, I agree with the OP, when is a better question than if, and a timeline shouldn't be the result of a vote, not to mention "don't hold your breathe for an interchangeable quicken file" between win/mac.
I'm going to unfollow this thread, as majority of posts here are explaining why qmac isn't equal to qwin, instead of asking why the qmac version was orphaned and developed separately yet marketed as the same?
admitting the error is the first step to making a correction, h3ll I still don't understand why my daily portfolio value change is skewed continuously when the qwin version without mistake reports accurately?
I don't get it?
You seem to think a quick fix is available, and that Quicken is choosing not to do it. I think that's incorrect thinking.davekr said:explaining how the patient got so sick is different
from asking for votes to return to full health!
yes, databases are different from spreadsheets,
however the goals were allowed to be modified when
qmac followed? resulting in the failed marketing...
and subsequent death bed assignment by intuit.
cross platform portability has always been described
as “no problem” yet anyone who has attempted has
seen behind the band aid approach of solutions offered.
I have changed platforms win/mac many times since 1995.
currently I use win for work, mac for personal and I know
of many on both sides, whom migrate due to employment,
and they take their files back and forth to use programs
native to the OS, and we both know how painful that
might be, attempting that with quicken.
I personally maintained a win platform on mac os for
YEARS due to the crippled nature of qmac. new ownership
gave me hope, however excuses enable the past. I also
maintain a parallel financial file on a competitor as I
don’t trust quicken is dedicated to fixing qmac.
as for giving advise to “start a dedicated thread” for results?
not my 1st rodeo, and didn’t get resolution as have most requests
from past years regarding failures? I think I asked to this issue
over a year ago?
https://getsatisfaction.com/quickenco...
I do follow that thread, no joy for over 2 months?
I usually end up giving up as with this subject.
a former ceo jointed a corp I was familiar with, this corp was failing
as a result of multiplemergers, and cultures all chaffing, pulling in
different directions, never changing the motief to the new image.
upon his arrival, he heard the excuses, many similar to why
quicken is at this point. the product of this corp didn’t improve
until the new ceo set definable goals and publicly held the team
responsible. this discussion reminds me of how valuable and
necessary his actions (radically viewed at the time) were.
yet here we are....