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Is there a category for home appreciation when you update the value of a property?

I recently updated the value of my home which I have as an asset in quicken (linked to a mortgage and escrow account). This resulted in a transaction in the register for the asset itself with a payee "Balance Adjustment". I was just wondering what category to use with this, if any? Should I create a new one for "property appreciation" or is there one already that I should use? Or should I be going about this in a completely different way?

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  • JLP1976
    JLP1976 Member ✭✭
    I setup a category for automobile depreciation, but the concept could be used for appreciation as well. I put it in a Group called Miscellaneous, which I use as a catch-all for categories that I don't want included in day-to-day expense or income reporting.
  • BK
    BK Member ✭✭✭✭
    I too do the exact same way as @NotACPA recommended (category=same account name) for both, appreciation and depreciation which I write accordingly in the memo.  In a sense you are adjusting the account or asset value in either direction and you can create custom reports to additionally filter values in the memo field.  Yields the same result but cleaner since not only you are not creating yet another set of categories but also not affecting your income/expense.
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  • Boatnmaniac
    Boatnmaniac SuperUser ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2020
    @pfiscal - As you can see, there several different ways you can do this.  It really boils down to what your preferences for Payee and Category are. 
    My preference is to use the "Balance Adjustment" category for both appreciation and depreciation of value and then to Tag it with the appropriate Asset.  This way this category can be used with all assets (house, car, etc.) without needing to create unique categories for each.
    I also make sure that my Budget and income/expense/spending Reports are customized to not include the "Balance Adjustment" category.
    (QW Premier Subscription: R32.12 on Windows 10)
  • q_lurker
    q_lurker SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just to be clear on a subtlety -- 
    @pfiscal cited a transaction with "Payee = Balance Adjustment" and no category and asked what category to use.

    @JLP1976 suggested a user-created category such as "House Appreciation"
    @BK and @NotACPA suggested the account as the category as "[House Asset]" (or however the account is named).
    @Boatnmaniac suggested a user-created category of "Balance Adjustment" (different than the OP's citation of a payee by that name).

    I didn't want that difference to go unnoticed or cause confusion.
  • Boatnmaniac
    Boatnmaniac SuperUser ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2020
    q_lurker said:
    Just to be clear on a subtlety -- 
    @pfiscal cited a transaction with "Payee = Balance Adjustment" and no category and asked what category to use.

    @JLP1976 suggested a user-created category such as "House Appreciation"
    @BK and @NotACPA suggested the account as the category as "[House Asset]" (or however the account is named).
    @Boatnmaniac suggested a user-created category of "Balance Adjustment" (different than the OP's citation of a payee by that name).

    I didn't want that difference to go unnoticed or cause confusion.
    Thanks for summarizing it so well, @q_lurker .
    BTW, a user-created category of "Balance Adjustment" is more intuitive if it is used with a spending, investment or loan account.  For an asset like a house or a car perhaps a user-created category of "Market Adjustment" might be more intuitive.
    (QW Premier Subscription: R32.12 on Windows 10)
  • pfiscal
    pfiscal Member ✭✭
    Thanks everyone, super helpful!
    I've had issues with income showing up and trying to customize reports to exclude specific categories so I think I'll go the route of assigning the accounts itself as the category for now and see how that goes.
  • Today I discovered that Quicken no longer seems to allow a transfer back into the same account. I've been doing this, as discussed in this thread, to update the value of our house in an asset account. The account you're in no longer appears as an option in the Category field. Quicken must be hiding it to prevent transfers back into the same account.

    I really don't want to use an income category for a change that isn't income! Suggestions? Are you also finding that a transfer back into the same account is no longer possible? Thank you!
  • GeoffG
    GeoffG SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    Today I discovered that Quicken no longer seems to allow a transfer back into the same account. I've been doing this, as discussed in this thread, to update the value of our house in an asset account. The account you're in no longer appears as an option in the Category field. Quicken must be hiding it to prevent transfers back into the same account.

    Nothing has changed with Quicken. I just checked and can add/delete/modify like always the self directed category. You may want to validate your data file. File>File Operations>Validate.
    user since '92 | Quicken Windows Premier - Subscription | Windows 10 Pro version 20H2
  • OK, my foolish oversight. Thanks for encouraging me to look more closely. The asset account had somehow got marked as "Hide in transaction entry lists." I don't remember doing that and don't know why I would have, since I do a monthly transaction, but then I am getting older. ;-)

    So yes, I can still increase the value of an asset the usual way, by recording a transfer back into the same account.
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