Asset Class changes from Single to Mixture

Pat Sills

I have an asset, LHYAX, a bond fund. I designate it as a SINGLE asset class, domestic bonds, and the designation takes and holds during the session. But when I next log in, the asset class designation has changed to MIXTURE, which I do not want. How can I make this stop? Other asset designations are persistent once I change them. Why is this one misbehaving?
Thanks, Ken

Jim_Harman

In the Security Detail view, click on Edit details. In the Asset Class box, un-check Download asset class information.

With this setting, the asset class info you have set should stick.

q_lurker

The symbol, and likely Asset Class, is greyed out because you have the Security Type set to "Bond".  Change the Type to anything else and you will likely be able to keep the Asset Class as "Domestic Bond" or however else you choose.  Quicken would expect you to choose "Mutual Fund" as the Type, but that is up to you.

Jim_Harman

In the Security Detail view, click on Edit details. In the Asset Class box, un-check Download asset class information.

With this setting, the asset class info you have set should stick.

Pat Sills

That should work. Thanks!

Pat Sills

Well, should have worked but did not. I can see the download asset class information checkbox. It is checked but the entire field is greyed out and cannot be modified. Stays greyed out independent of whether mixture or single is checked. Thanks for your continuing help.
Ken

Chris_QPW

I'm seeing really weird behavior in this dialog.
I start with this:

I select Savings Bond for the type (This is a type that I created in the past, note I went through the default ones without any problem, until I hit what looks like what @Pat Sills said is happening).


And the really strange part is even if I put the type back to Mutual fund it is still grayed out.


But one thing is different from what @Pat Sills is seeing, if I toggle the Single/Mixture it will clear the check mark (but not enable the control).

Pat Sills

You described the problem perfectly! I have other assets that do not exhibit this problem. Maybe I'll try to manually "sell" the asset and immediately rebuy it.

Pat Sills

I have the exact same problem as Chris. I have an investment (LHYAX) that keeps going to mixture from single every time I start a new session. When I go to edit the security details I see that security symbol is greyed out. Also, The checkbox for download asset class information is also greyed out and cannot be used.
1. I am using the latest Quicken for Windows subscription software
2. None of my other securities have this problem.
3. I have run validate and repair multiple times and every time it results in no errors.

Please help me to resolve this problem. It causes data problems in my reports and graphs. At this point I would settle for a work-around.

Pat

q_lurker

The symbol, and likely Asset Class, is greyed out because you have the Security Type set to "Bond".  Change the Type to anything else and you will likely be able to keep the Asset Class as "Domestic Bond" or however else you choose.  Quicken would expect you to choose "Mutual Fund" as the Type, but that is up to you.

Jim_Harman

@Pat Sills, the security type should be Mutual Fund and not Bond. If you change it to Mutual Fund, are you able to set the asset allocation to Single and Domestic Bonds and have the selection stick? You should have the Download asset class information box un-checked.

If it won't stick at Domestic Bonds, what asset classes are in the mixture?

About how many transactions do you have with this fund? You may need to set up a new security with the correct type and asset class settings and edit the transactions to use the corrected security. 

Pat Sills

Yes, that works!! Thanks, Jim and q_lurker. My direct problem is now fixed, although I think this is a bug, or if not a bug the software is not intuitive and should not fail like this.

q_lurker

It has been well established for years that Security Type = Bond means no ticker applies (rightly or wrongly).  That is, for that type, the ticker symbol could not be edited.  Yours is the first case I recall where there was an Asset Class effect noted.  I haven't fully investigated, but this may be new behavior.  I can see part of that behavior - when I change a MF to a Type = Bond, the Download Asset Class option goes away.  I haven't pursued it all the way yet.  

FWIW:  I operate with a separate Security Type = MF-Bonds, a type I created.  It is not ideal, but it serves my purposes.    

NotACPA

According to Fidelity Investments, LHYAX IS a mixture of debt type securities.  And, it's most definitely NOT a "Bond" itself, although is holds a variety of bonds.