Quicken for Mac 2018 v5.3.x Released

Quicken Marcus
Quicken Marcus Quicken Mac Subscription Employee ✭✭✭✭
We've started rolling out Quicken for Mac 2018 v5.3.x.  The focus of this release is improved stability in the Bills & Income and the portfolio view.  Please file issues with this release as comments in this forum post so we can find them faster.

Bills & Income
  • New Edit Details menu in the Bills & Income view.
  • Credit Card payments that are transfers will only appear once in Bills & Income.
  • Fixed an issue where account selection in Projected Balances view would affect other views such as All Accounts.
  • Fixed a crash that would occur when hovering over the cash flow chart under Projected Balances view in an account with a zero balance.
Portfolio View
  • New security menu in the portfolio view where you can go to edit the security or go to the web page with lots of detailed information about that security.
  • The chart in the portfolio view has been smoothed out and works better when using the as of date.
  • Re-enabled the Print menu on the investment transaction view.
  • The chart in portfolio view can be resized or hidden but unfortunately, the height of the charts wasn't remembered. This is now fixed. 
  • Fixed some rounding error issues in investment transactions that would cause bogus placeholders to appear.
  • Fixed an issue where changing the sort order for some columns in the portfolio view would move the total row around. It should always remain at the bottom of the list.
  • Fixed an issue where the Day Open column in Portfolio View only returned 0.
  • Fixed a crash that would occur when selecting investment accounts that only had a placeholder without any real transactions.
We found an issue in 5.3 where reconciling would remove the Balance column so we're fixing that first before we start rolling things out again. 

Updates
11/15 - Released 5.3 to a small number of customers and then stopped.
11/16 - Released 5.3.1 - This fixes the reconcile bug.
11/21 - Released 5.3.2 - We discovered a bug that will occur if turning off Single-Mutual Fund mode on a connected account.  While we're fixing the issues, we decided to prevent customers this from running into this issue by not allowing the feature to be turned off for now.
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Comments

  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017
    Received the update notice this a.m. will hold off until the reconciliation column issue is resolved
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017
    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    Absolutely! First place I went.Tried to delete the security (not desirable) just to see what happens, would not allow deletion as its saying the security is still in use.I am on with Quicken support will advise what I find out.
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    I retreated to the confines(warm & welcoming arms) of 5.2.1 and the stock does not reappear after updating from the Fi. 
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    Worked with a nice fellow in support & we came up with the magical fractional share quantity to drive the security from the PV. back on 5.3.1
  • J_Mike
    J_Mike Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2018
    Combined portfolio views (Investing, Brokerage, Retirement);
    The Cash entry is sorting alphabetically with the securities - instead of remaking at the bottom of the list of securities.
    The Cash entry remains at bottom of list when displaying individual account portfolio views.
    QWin & QMac (Deluxe) Subscription
    Quicken user since 1991

  • Quicken Marcus
    Quicken Marcus Quicken Mac Subscription Employee ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    JM said:

    Combined portfolio views (Investing, Brokerage, Retirement);
    The Cash entry is sorting alphabetically with the securities - instead of remaking at the bottom of the list of securities.
    The Cash entry remains at bottom of list when displaying individual account portfolio views.

    We had this issue in 5.2.x but this should be fixed in 5.3.x.  Are you seeing this in 5.3.x?  if you are, what group are you using and what column are you sorting by?  I'm not able to reproduce this in my local version of the app but of course, I'm already running the next release already so it's possible it's fixed in the new version and not 5.3.x.
  • Quicken Marcus
    Quicken Marcus Quicken Mac Subscription Employee ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    We did a bunch of work on rounding issues in 5.3 so I'm surprised this worked in 5.2 but is broken in 5.3.  It means we got something wrong or rounded something in the wrong way.  I'll contact you directly.  Thanks for reporting this.
  • Tom Bonner
    Tom Bonner Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    "New security menu in the portfolio view where you can go to edit the security or go to the web page with lots of detailed information about that security."

    Link on security name to edit security does not appear if there is there is no symbol. In 2007 Mac I could enter a CUSIP symbol for bonds and the symbols were retained when I moved to 2017 Mac but there was no box to enter a symbol in the setup for new bonds. Thus I can easily click on the bond name to update older bond prices but can't for newer purchases. The CUSIP symbol appearing in the symbol column also makes it easier to choose between bonds with similar names. So please add a symbol box to the bond setup screen.

    "The chart in portfolio view can be resized or hidden but unfortunately, the height of the charts wasn't remembered. This is now fixed. "

    I am not sure that I had a problem with chart not staying hidden once I found out that portfolio accounts show much faster if chart is collapsed/hidden but much more irritating is that column width adjustments and sorting on a column other that security name are not remembered.
  • ozarkcanoer
    ozarkcanoer Member ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I don't think the changes happened on 12/16 as stated under the "Updates" header.
  • J_Mike
    J_Mike Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    JM said:

    Combined portfolio views (Investing, Brokerage, Retirement);
    The Cash entry is sorting alphabetically with the securities - instead of remaking at the bottom of the list of securities.
    The Cash entry remains at bottom of list when displaying individual account portfolio views.

    Version 5.3.1 - just upgraded today (11/17/17).
    See this with Investing, Brokerage and Retirement groups - sorting by 'NAME' column.
    No issue with individual accounts - Cash remains at bottom of list.
    Had not noticed this behavior with earlier releases.
    QWin & QMac (Deluxe) Subscription
    Quicken user since 1991

  • Quicken Marcus
    Quicken Marcus Quicken Mac Subscription Employee ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    JM said:

    Combined portfolio views (Investing, Brokerage, Retirement);
    The Cash entry is sorting alphabetically with the securities - instead of remaking at the bottom of the list of securities.
    The Cash entry remains at bottom of list when displaying individual account portfolio views.

    Oh man, you're right.  I was trying Group by Security, Type, Asset and Holding Period and they looked fine and I don't think I really scrutinized Group By Account. I guess we fixed Totals but broke Cash.  Ugh! Thanks for reporting this.
  • Quicken Marcus
    Quicken Marcus Quicken Mac Subscription Employee ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017

    I don't think the changes happened on 12/16 as stated under the "Updates" header.

    Right you are.  I think you found a bug in my brain :-).  I guess I need to get more sleep.
  • Quicken Marcus
    Quicken Marcus Quicken Mac Subscription Employee ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017

    "New security menu in the portfolio view where you can go to edit the security or go to the web page with lots of detailed information about that security."

    Link on security name to edit security does not appear if there is there is no symbol. In 2007 Mac I could enter a CUSIP symbol for bonds and the symbols were retained when I moved to 2017 Mac but there was no box to enter a symbol in the setup for new bonds. Thus I can easily click on the bond name to update older bond prices but can't for newer purchases. The CUSIP symbol appearing in the symbol column also makes it easier to choose between bonds with similar names. So please add a symbol box to the bond setup screen.

    "The chart in portfolio view can be resized or hidden but unfortunately, the height of the charts wasn't remembered. This is now fixed. "

    I am not sure that I had a problem with chart not staying hidden once I found out that portfolio accounts show much faster if chart is collapsed/hidden but much more irritating is that column width adjustments and sorting on a column other that security name are not remembered.

    I think not showing the menu for a stock without a symbol was a design decision since we couldn't go to a web page but are you saying you'd still like the menu to be able to go to edit the security dialog?  Yup, that makes sense.

    In regards to adding the symbol to the bonds, I'll see if we can do that.  I don't know of a reason we couldn't support that.

    The fix in charts was to remember the height of the chart.  Closing it completely was always remembered.

    Thank you for also pointing out that column widths and the sort order weren't being remembered.  I agree that we should fix that.  I've personally been doing a lot of portfolio view stuff but I guess I personally don't do a lot of sorting or resizing of columns so I didn't notice they weren't being saved.  
  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited November 2017
    I like the bills and income in a combined menu, can we get that back as an option.  Also under bills and income, I was previously able to change the date when I posted it, no I have to go find it in the register, can we add the ability to change the date when you post it in the bills or income sections?
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    it was simply trial & error, once the -0.00 share value went to a positive fraction share value (added shares 0.0001,0.000001,etc    ) just played with the adding zero's, in my case 0.000002 made the security disappear.
  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited November 2017

    I like the bills and income in a combined menu, can we get that back as an option.  Also under bills and income, I was previously able to change the date when I posted it, no I have to go find it in the register, can we add the ability to change the date when you post it in the bills or income sections?

    Thought I looked in there and only saw a graph of my account. Will look if it has a list of my schedule transaction that I can modify and post.
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    Not observing any placeholders wrt  funds owned; I have a call option coming up on a stock with fractional quantities.expect the activity mid December..Will see how the rounding goes on that one
  • John_in_NC
    John_in_NC Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    I reported those weird rounding placeholders in beta. Nobody else commented on them, so I figured it was just my situation. I deleted the placeholders for the few offending MF accounts, and all has been well.
  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited December 2017
    Greetings all.  I just upgraded from Quicken for Mac 2017 to Quicken Mac 5.3.2.  The first thing I noticed is that "Today's Balance" in the upper right corner is very low.  It appears to be leaving out a number of account that are properly listed in the left sidebar.  I'm trying to figure out where you determine what is included in the "Today's Balance" number.

    I'll keep looking, but if anyone can give me a pointer to this, I'd appreciate it!
  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited November 2017

    Greetings all.  I just upgraded from Quicken for Mac 2017 to Quicken Mac 5.3.2.  The first thing I noticed is that "Today's Balance" in the upper right corner is very low.  It appears to be leaving out a number of account that are properly listed in the left sidebar.  I'm trying to figure out where you determine what is included in the "Today's Balance" number.

    I'll keep looking, but if anyone can give me a pointer to this, I'd appreciate it!

    Thanks RickO!  I had noticed that the number seemed be almost like my investments total was left out, but not quite.  Your explanation makes sense.
    Meanwhile, I think this is an unfortunate change from Quicken Mac 2017.  I think that Quicken should include the market values in this number, or as you suggest, get rid of it in this view.
  • Bob@63
    Bob@63 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    @ Quicken Marcus: Any update on when team will address portfolio view not remembering column widths? Or when bond mutual fund shares incorrectly assigned during migration from Q-Windows as "Bonds" can be correctly re-designated as "Mutual Funds"? Both issues have been reported using the tool at v. 5.2.x. Thanks. 
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    Just noticed that while the magical fractional value deleted the security from the portfolio view, the security shows up under daily investment transactions in the calendar view. Might this be a bug.
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    Just noticed that while the magical fractional value deleted the security from the portfolio view, the security shows up under daily investment transactions in the calendar view. Might this be a bug.
  • Concordman
    Concordman Quicken Mac Subscription Mac Beta Beta
    edited November 2017

    QM V5.3.1..sold a security on 11/14/17..Security no longer in Portfolio view, this AM after upgrade to 5.3.1  security showing up in PV with -0 shares. 

    The security is displayed in the calendar view for daily g/l as $0.00
  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited November 2017
    I upgraded from Quicken for Mac 2017 to Quicken for Mac 2018 Deluxe (Version 5.3.2) three days ago.  After the upgrade, my account balances were off significantly.  I assumed some error happened in the data migration.  I found a backup file from prior to the upgrade and opened it.  I worked on it for several hours with no problem.  I was doing something else (checking email I think) when I got an error message that my Quicken crashed.  After re-opening Quicken, my balances were off and actually duplicate accounts were created.

    The only possible hint I found as I selectively reviewed transactions is that it appears transfers between accounts did not properly handle the debit/credit.

    I tried contacting support but the chat sessions for this issue did not help (as a matter of fact I was told to "Wait a moment" and after fifteen minutes I left the chat).  I have scoured the forums and have not found anything that is current and helpful to this issue.

    I enjoy that my checkbook balance looks fantastic Quicken, but regrettably it does not reflect the reality.  I found Quicken for Windows to be very useful, previous Quicken for Mac versions tolerable and this one unusable at this point.  Hints?  Suggestions?  Ideas?
  • Dave316
    Dave316 Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    edited December 2017
    Upgraded from Qmac2017 to Qmac2018 v5.3.2 over the weekend.  Been running it for two days now and every time (yes, every time) I try to import a Web Connect file from my bank into my primary checking account, the application crashes.  I was able to import two other Web Connect files before the behavior started occurring and I haven't tried a different account yet.  Going to try that tomorrow, but would be good to know if anyone else if experiencing this issue as well.
  • Brad1
    Brad1 Member ✭✭
    edited August 2018
    I still can't pull the trigger on this, basically because I don't trust you (Mac Team.)   I am using Quicken 2007 and I have investments I track as well as a rental property I manage.  Apparently not all of my data will migrate and then I'll be stuck wasting a lot of my time trying to make a feature-weak product (Quicken 2018) work for me.  No thanks.  I'll give you my money when you have a product with all the features I have in 2007 and you no longer have feature disparity between Mac and Windows.
  • Mike_jMGS
    Mike_jMGS Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Brad said:

    I still can't pull the trigger on this, basically because I don't trust you (Mac Team.)   I am using Quicken 2007 and I have investments I track as well as a rental property I manage.  Apparently not all of my data will migrate and then I'll be stuck wasting a lot of my time trying to make a feature-weak product (Quicken 2018) work for me.  No thanks.  I'll give you my money when you have a product with all the features I have in 2007 and you no longer have feature disparity between Mac and Windows.

    I agree! I'm sure many users are in the same boat as us. Until I can be confident that ALL my data and history will migrate to the new product I will not switch.
  • Brad1
    Brad1 Member ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Brad said:

    I still can't pull the trigger on this, basically because I don't trust you (Mac Team.)   I am using Quicken 2007 and I have investments I track as well as a rental property I manage.  Apparently not all of my data will migrate and then I'll be stuck wasting a lot of my time trying to make a feature-weak product (Quicken 2018) work for me.  No thanks.  I'll give you my money when you have a product with all the features I have in 2007 and you no longer have feature disparity between Mac and Windows.

    People will say well eventually you will be forced to switch.  Well, maybe not.  Maybe I'll just give up completely with tracking all this stuff.  There are people who don't use Quicken and they seem to be living their lives just fine.  This may be like the cable company - eventually the product gets so frustrating to use it's just easier to do without it.
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