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Allow Biometric Windows Hello authentication to be used in place of passwords (2 Merged Votes)

Ron

Allow Windows Hello biometric authentication to be used in place of passwords any place where passwords are used within Quicken 2018 for Windows.

Most modern PCs are being equipped with some form of Windows Hello biometric authentication (fingerprint, facial recognition etc.)

Given the fact that Quicken houses critical financial data, it should allow biometric authentication for computers and operating systems that support biometric authentication.

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UKR

OK, so you are using your biometrics to logon to Windows.

And then you're leaving your computer running, wide open, unattended for long periods of time so that anybody may use it (or misuse it) while you're away ...

And you have Quicken running on it already ... wide open, unattended, too.

You don't really need a lot of fancy stuff.
All you need to do is to get in the habit of securing your computer when you step away from it ...

press Win-key + L to lock it.

Now nobody can get in and (mis)use your computer, not even your cat or 3-year-old kid.

If you can keep your computer secured while not in use by you, you don't even need a Quicken data file password or other fancy mechanisms.

Ron

What you are saying may be true but people are human and layered security is always better.
Using your premise mobile banking and other applications should not provide biometric authentication since the mobile device can simply be locked.

Those application rely on the biometric capabilities built into the mobile device.

Presumably the user had to enter a hopefully lengthy PI when the mobile device first boots up.
Thereafter biometric authentication can be used to bring the phone out of lock mode.

In short, every human is fallible.

Remember Quicken has two password options at a minimum (one when the program is launched and one when you try to retrieve external data.

So let's say that the person failed to lock the PC/laptop prior to being distracted. Quicken is not open at this point in time. In order to launch Quicken, someone would have to enter the password to launch Quicken (assuming the user has this option turned in).

All I am saying is that with the widespread availability of biometric authentication, biometric authentication should be allowed in addition to password authentication for those who have the proper hardware. As expected, a PIN option would be combined with the biometric option so that the user would not be locked out of Quicken should the biometric hardware fail.

Quicken is a very mature product. I have been using it for over 25 years.

Other than maintaining communications capability with the financial institutions, I cannot think of anything else that I need added to Quicken other than biometric authentication.

Biometric security should be added to Quicken as part of the new annual subscription model.

greenperro

Wondering if Quicken could add the use of a fingerprint sensor found on some laptops to sign into the application?

Roger M

The mobile app already has this feature.

greenperro

Yes and that feature works great. I would like to see a similar feature for the Windows application.

Jack Scripps

Since facial recognition software is used by the Windows 10 operating system to validate the logon, why can't this same technology be used within Quicken to eliminate the need to type, retype passwords over and over (ie for access to the OneStep update, etc.)?

Quicken Natalie

Hello Jack,

Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the Community!

I went ahead and merged your post with an ongoing Idea for this same feature request. Our developer's review Idea threads to get an idea of what people would like Quicken to offer.

Be sure to add your vote by clicking on the gray triangle right above the current vote count, located in the blue box at the beginning of this thread:

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Thank you,

Quicken Natalie

RealSwissJay

Would it be possible to add "Windows Hello" biometric login to the Windows desktop app, to unlock the Quicken file, as well as the vault? I already use this with my password manager on Windows and it's very handy. Ask for password to be typed once every 5 logins (or customizable by user) and use biometrics the rest of the time. Please and thanks :)

Chris_QPW

Just so you know RoboForm allows using Windows Hello and it can attach to Quicken's prompts for the data file/Password Vault Passwords.

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Quicken Francisco

Hello @RealSwissJay

Thank you for taking the time to visit the Community to post your question, although I apologize that this feature isn't currently offered. I have changed your post to an Idea thread to add the ability to have fingerprint sign on(Windows Hello) added to Quicken.

Be sure to navigate to the top of this post and click the up arrow to add your vote!

Ideas are reviewed by our development team to see what people would like to be available in the future.

Thanks,
Quicken Francisco

RealSwissJay

> @Chris_QPW said:
> Just so you know RoboForm allows using Windows Hello and it can attach to Quicken's prompts for the data file/Password Vault Passwords.

Thanks for that. However, from a security point of view, I prefer my software communicate with OS APIs directly, rather than having to add an intermediate 3rd party software as a proxy.

Chris_QPW

RealSwissJay said:

> @Chris_QPW said:
> Just so you know RoboForm allows using Windows Hello and it can attach to Quicken's prompts for the data file/Password Vault Passwords.

Thanks for that. However, from a security point of view, I prefer my software communicate with OS APIs directly, rather than having to add an intermediate 3rd party software as a proxy.

Me too, but look at the date this suggestion was submitted, and the number of votes it has gotten. Certainly it isn't going to be at the top of their list to add this feature.

Mary Ann Edson-Plumb

I would prefer biometric login via fingerprint on the mobile app. This is supported by all my other banking apps. I'm surprised Quicken hasn't implemented this already.

theeaglesnestco

Wonderful and highly functional request. Windows Hello (and in a larger sense, biometrics) is becoming Microsoft's preferred method of authentication in computing in general and they have already announced that passwords will no longer exist with their products in the not too distant future. I think it would be wise to get ahead of this inevitability and integrate Hello with Quicken as it's currently much harder to steal a biometric algorithm than it is a password. (PS, FWIW, I would prefer the whole Hello integration and not just fingerprint, as my laptop doesn't have fingerprint but does have facial recognition, and I'm sure I'm not alone)

Michael Lynch

Anybody working on this?

Biometric Login for Quicken Windows would be a nice feature.

It's been 5 years since it was first requested above.

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stephenadler

Quicken is overdue for biometric sign in.

Jonn-63

Passkey option for Quicken Windows. Make it happen.

floydfan

Is there any updates on this? What I find incredible is that the Mac desktop version has fingerprint sign in but the Windows version has nothing. So every time I open my Quicken in Windows I have to type a password. I moved from Mac to Windows because the Windows version is superior to the Mac version, so I would have expected this.

Michael Lynch

I agree!

Jonn-63

Password only security is worse than no security at all. It's false security, as anyone with a minimal amount of savvy and password breaking software and hardware will in a brief time be able to break it. It's past time for Quicken to up their game on the Windows desktop app security and enable biometric security (face or fingerprint) / passkey security for Quicken Classic on Windows. This is a glaring security issue that must no longer be ignored.

slickparent

Add Biometric ID as an option for authentication.

Quicken Kristina

Hello @slickparent,

Thank you for coming to the Community to share your feedback! Since there was already a request for this functionality to be added, I merged your request with the existing one.

Thank you!

SimpleFogey

Another vote for Windows Hello integration. Use the platform specific APIs on macOS and Windows and automatically inherit all the different technologies, PIN, Facial rec, fingerprint, FIDO passkeys, hardware security keys, and whatever comes next all accessible through the platform APIs you're already using.

For walkaway security on personal systems, Windows Settings | Dynamic Lock is quite easy to use. Pair system with Bluetooth device. System locks when paired device is 5-10 steps away. Combine with old-fashioned screen saver time out, and "Prompt for password on resume" OR system sleep at an interval you're comfortable with and walk away.

@Chris_QPW Thanks for RoboForm note. RoboForm also supports login via Windows Hello. I support family with motor difficulty. FIngerprint recognition is unusable. Windows Hello facial rec to login to the system, Windows Hello facial into Roboform. Easy. Hello PIN for responsible and remote family members.

@Quicken , this would very much help. Attacks against persons of all age groups are only increasing in frequency and magnitude of losses. Just look at recent FBI & FTC Bulletins.

Chris_QPW

Yes, I have been using Windows Hello in RoboForm since they added it and love it.