Can't import Quicken 2007 in Mojave

jcpiano

Oh no.
Freaking out.
I updated to Mojave to back up my ipads and iphone (which I hadn't done in over a year?-long story-sick mom with cancer)
I finally had to this weekend (mom in hospice now) to take pics etc and make phone work again so I could change outgoing voice mail greeting etc. and forgot that the reason I was delaying upgrading to Mojave is because I can't import my Quicken Mac 2007 files, yes?
If anyone can help me solve this, I'd appreciate it. I know I can't "un-upgrade" Mojave. I used quicken all these many many years only for checkbook/reconcile and quick reports for taxes, that's it! nothing else.
my records go back to 2013, but only need to go back as far as all of 2019 for taxes and of course this far into 2020.
I have had no time to deal with this because my mom is now in hospice with me here during Covid and I'm alone dealing with all this.
I can't lose my entire checkbook for last year up to now.
I am partially unemployed and with unemployment now (self-employed) struggling.
(I also can't afford/don't need a subscription, just a one time download purchase of quicken since I only need for checkbook and quickreports.)
Please help me if you are able. Thanks so much in advance.
Julie

RickO

I'm sorry to hear of all these troubles. It sounds terrible.

There is a known issue related to backups using QM2007 in Mojave. As I remember, these only affect automatic backups. You should still be able to backup manually using menu File > Backup. If that fails, you can always go to your Quicken Data File in the Finder, right click on it, and select Compress (filename). This will create a zip file which is fine for a backup. You could add the date to the compresses filename to remind you when you made the backup.

Having said all that, please, please, please get an inexpensive external hard drive of at least double the capacity of your Mac's hard drive, and set it up as a backup destination in Apple's Time Machine. All hard drive's eventually fail. You need to protect against this not just for Quicken, but for all of your files.

Also, if you wish to continue using QM2007, do not upgrade your Mac beyond Mojave.

If you subscribe to current Quicken Deluxe or higher, you can let the subscription lapse when it expires. At this time, all online access ceases (including software updates), but you may continue to use manually as a checkbook and to generate reports. Note that this does not apply to the Starter edition which becomes read only when the subscription expires.

jcpiano

Hi Rick
Thank you thank you thank you for this, you have saved me hours and hours of time agonizing, googling trying to solve problem.
I do have an external hard drive (but not double size I don't think, I'll check, from hard drive) and Time Machine, which is always up to date, so knew data was backed up there, but I really panicked when I saw all that stuff about 07/Mojave issues, and thought I couldn't import it to ANY new program, not just Quicken software. And no, definitely don't want to keep using 07 lol time for an upgrade, ya think? (It has been really wonky for a long time anyway.)
And I'll do as you say and subscribe to Deluxe and just let it lapse; I'm just a self employed piano teacher here, my speciality is playing Mozart and Beethoven, not all this stuff. Like I said I need it for two things.
Again, I am truly grateful for this easy solve (I assume it's easy to import 07 into Deluxe, ya?)
It gives me more time with my mom.
Julie

RickO

Yes, you can import 07 into current program. Best if you do that before upgrading macOS beyond Mojave.

Be aware that QMac is pretty different. You should be able to create the same quick reports you need, but you may need to ask for help finding where/how.

Also be aware that if you don't renew, you will be getting popup reminders in the program about renewing.

Also, check pricing at third party vendors online and places like Staples and Costco. You may find a better price than from Quicken.

smayer97

The issue is SIMPLE.... QM2007 auto-backup does not work on High Sierra, Mojave or newer macOS IF, and ONLY IF, the data file resides on an APFS formatted drive or volume, which is the default. The answer is also SIMPLE.

If you want to use QM2007's auto-backup the data file AND the backup files need to reside on a HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) formatted drive or volume, either on an external drive OR you can allocate part of your existing internal drive to be formatted as HFS+ using Apple Disk Utility. Then move the data file and point QM2007  autobackup to the new destination on the HFS+ formatted volume.

There is are 2 whole thread discussions on this when this issue first came up:

• Is Quicken for Mac 2007 Compatible with High Sierra (macOS 10.13)?
  
• Is Quicken for Mac 2007 Compatible with Mojave (macOS 10.14)?

The alternative is to simply turn off QM2007 Auto-backups and rely either on manual backups or automated backups like Time Machine (this is most advisable if you do not already have backups to an external source, regardless of whether you use QM2007 auto-backups).

When it comes to Catalina, QM2007 can also be run in a virtual machine. see Running Quicken for Mac 2007 in a Virtual Machine (VM)

But if you decide to migrate to the new QMac, it can be done locally if you have Mojave or older but if you have Catalina, your data will be converted by Quicken servers, so either way you can get the data migrated.

jcpiano

Poster here, I forgot to mention that I CAN run 2007 but it appears I can't back it up?

RickO

I'm sorry to hear of all these troubles. It sounds terrible.

There is a known issue related to backups using QM2007 in Mojave. As I remember, these only affect automatic backups. You should still be able to backup manually using menu File > Backup. If that fails, you can always go to your Quicken Data File in the Finder, right click on it, and select Compress (filename). This will create a zip file which is fine for a backup. You could add the date to the compresses filename to remind you when you made the backup.

Having said all that, please, please, please get an inexpensive external hard drive of at least double the capacity of your Mac's hard drive, and set it up as a backup destination in Apple's Time Machine. All hard drive's eventually fail. You need to protect against this not just for Quicken, but for all of your files.

Also, if you wish to continue using QM2007, do not upgrade your Mac beyond Mojave.

If you subscribe to current Quicken Deluxe or higher, you can let the subscription lapse when it expires. At this time, all online access ceases (including software updates), but you may continue to use manually as a checkbook and to generate reports. Note that this does not apply to the Starter edition which becomes read only when the subscription expires.

jcpiano

Hi Rick
Thank you thank you thank you for this, you have saved me hours and hours of time agonizing, googling trying to solve problem.
I do have an external hard drive (but not double size I don't think, I'll check, from hard drive) and Time Machine, which is always up to date, so knew data was backed up there, but I really panicked when I saw all that stuff about 07/Mojave issues, and thought I couldn't import it to ANY new program, not just Quicken software. And no, definitely don't want to keep using 07 lol time for an upgrade, ya think? (It has been really wonky for a long time anyway.)
And I'll do as you say and subscribe to Deluxe and just let it lapse; I'm just a self employed piano teacher here, my speciality is playing Mozart and Beethoven, not all this stuff. Like I said I need it for two things.
Again, I am truly grateful for this easy solve (I assume it's easy to import 07 into Deluxe, ya?)
It gives me more time with my mom.
Julie

jcpiano

oops looks like my first reply DID go through, so I typed a second thinking it had not. See?? off to teach my next student via Zoom. :/

RickO

Yes, you can import 07 into current program. Best if you do that before upgrading macOS beyond Mojave.

Be aware that QMac is pretty different. You should be able to create the same quick reports you need, but you may need to ask for help finding where/how.

Also be aware that if you don't renew, you will be getting popup reminders in the program about renewing.

Also, check pricing at third party vendors online and places like Staples and Costco. You may find a better price than from Quicken.

jcpiano

Ok, thanks.
Too bad it's so different. Loved simplicity of 07. Go to Activities > QuickReports. That was it. But I will ask for help again for sure!
Thanks for heads up on popups. And to look out for it at Staples. :)

smayer97

The issue is SIMPLE.... QM2007 auto-backup does not work on High Sierra, Mojave or newer macOS IF, and ONLY IF, the data file resides on an APFS formatted drive or volume, which is the default. The answer is also SIMPLE.

If you want to use QM2007's auto-backup the data file AND the backup files need to reside on a HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) formatted drive or volume, either on an external drive OR you can allocate part of your existing internal drive to be formatted as HFS+ using Apple Disk Utility. Then move the data file and point QM2007  autobackup to the new destination on the HFS+ formatted volume.

There is are 2 whole thread discussions on this when this issue first came up:

• Is Quicken for Mac 2007 Compatible with High Sierra (macOS 10.13)?
  
• Is Quicken for Mac 2007 Compatible with Mojave (macOS 10.14)?

The alternative is to simply turn off QM2007 Auto-backups and rely either on manual backups or automated backups like Time Machine (this is most advisable if you do not already have backups to an external source, regardless of whether you use QM2007 auto-backups).

When it comes to Catalina, QM2007 can also be run in a virtual machine. see Running Quicken for Mac 2007 in a Virtual Machine (VM)

But if you decide to migrate to the new QMac, it can be done locally if you have Mojave or older but if you have Catalina, your data will be converted by Quicken servers, so either way you can get the data migrated.

smayer97

RickO said:

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Also be aware that if you don't renew, you will be getting popup reminders in the program about renewing....

NOT ONLY pop reminders BUT ALSO 25% of your screen will be taken up with Quicken ad space...

jcpiano

ok, thanks