What happened to the old Investment Performance Report?

Barry

The old investment performance report included change in securities price AND investment income; the new report does not include investment income and therefore does not really report investment performance. The new report has a message at bottom "Reports on position only accounts do not provide cost basis or investment income information" Position-only accounts appear to be a option under Edit>Preferences>Investment Transactions if one checks the "Enable Simple Investing (positions only) (Beta)." However, I have not checked that box but the report is telling me I have. This beta feature is not working correctly

q_lurker

So I am running R29.22.  I do not get any warning footnote about "Simple" accounts as Barry is seeing.  To my knowledge, none of my accounts have toggled themselves to Simple status.  Enable Simple is NOT checked under preferences.  

With respect to the report not showing Dividends, that can be a matter of how the report is subtotaled.  With "Don't Subtotal", I do not see dividends and other income itemized.  If I subtotal by "Security", I do see itemized dividends and other income.  All that is by design and correct.  

@Barry : Change the Subtotal selection and see of that makes a difference.  

Boatnmaniac

@Barry - You might want to check Account Details (General tab) for your investment account(s).  Some people have reported that when they upgraded to R30.9 their investment accounts were switched to Simple Investing.  If you find your account(s) have been switched to Simple, you can tick Complete and then OK to switch it back.

If you find this is what happened to you, you will want to check your shares prices after you switch back to "Complete".  Some are reporting that all shares prices were changed to $1.00.  Some others are reporting that Quicken crashes when trying to switch back to "Complete."  Hopefully neither of these is your situation.  I and others have not experienced either of these issues.  There are a couple of threads on this issue that you might want to review:  https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/20131472#Comment_20131472 and https://community.quicken.com/discussion/7882323/simple-investing-beta-net-worth-is-wrong-fidelity-quotes-reset-to-1/p2.

Ps56k2

what version are you running ....   Help --> About Quicken

Barry

I'm running Premier R29.22 and Q indicates that I have the latest version if I try to update.
After I posted, I went back, set my preferences to Enable Simple, went to an investment account and checked Complete-Positions and Transactions and a warning message came up asking whether I wanted to change from Simple. I did, but still no dividend.
Then I just repeated it, and the default tracking method on my account showed Complete without me having to change it but the report still does not show investment income

Ps56k2

see the dialog block here...

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/20131500/#Comment_20131500

Chris_QPW

Wow this interesting.  Up to now it has been thought that R30.9 switched "some" people/accounts from Complete to simple. But you are on R29.22 and it did it to you too!

Ps56k2

Barry said:

I'm running Premier R29.22

just to clarify... did you make the change to Simple,
or were the accts somehow changed in the background...
As the Prefs --> Investments --> Enable Simple -
must be enabled before the acct checkboxes will appear... Simple vs Complete

Trying to determine if it was a result of you making the checkbox change,
on the Simple selection box on the ACCT - not just the ENABLE - was somehow toggled

q_lurker

So I am running R29.22.  I do not get any warning footnote about "Simple" accounts as Barry is seeing.  To my knowledge, none of my accounts have toggled themselves to Simple status.  Enable Simple is NOT checked under preferences.  

With respect to the report not showing Dividends, that can be a matter of how the report is subtotaled.  With "Don't Subtotal", I do not see dividends and other income itemized.  If I subtotal by "Security", I do see itemized dividends and other income.  All that is by design and correct.  

@Barry : Change the Subtotal selection and see of that makes a difference.  

leishirsute

I am using Quicken R29.22 and there is no Simple or Complete option for my accounts.
What triggers that choice to be available?

Tom Young

@leishirsute

That's triggered under Tools > Preferences

Ps56k2

leishirsute said:

I am using Quicken R29.22 and there is no Simple or Complete option for my accounts.

Just be aware - there are ISSUES with going to the Simple tracking with respect to how NEW transactions are handled for Investment Accounts.

Basically....
Simple --> only has number of shares
Complete --> has complete details, number of shares AND type of transaction

leishirsute

@ps56k
Thanks, I just wanted to know if there was a way to avoid the Simple option. I'm kind of surprised this new feature was implemented as a tracking change rather than just a viewing change.

canoe32

I didn't know about this unwanted option switch until I was offered the R30.10 update.
While still running R30.9 I discovered 3 of my 4 Vanguard accounts had been switched to Simple. The Prefs --> Investments --> Enable Simple option was not present, but, oddly, it was available in the individual Account Details.
After updating to R30.10, the Prefs --> Investments --> Enable Simple (Beta) option appeared and was CHECKED. I thought the Simple option default was only for new users. If you update to R30.10, go back and check your Preferences.