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No, because I don't think they are. I just checked 4 other Mac finance programs (Banktivity, Moneydance, GnuCash, SeeFinance) and only one of them did not appear to have a way to import data from Quicken Mac.odysseus said:Isn't anyone else concerned that Quicken is basically holding their financial data hostage?
Jon said:Moneydance claims that the QMTF formatting is close enough to QIF that you can just change the file extension & it will import it. I have not tried it myself so I don't know how well that actually works.
QMTF exports do not include investment transactions.
Yes, a competitor could likely develop a way to read current Quicken Mac files much more easily than the proprietary database using in Quicken 2007.smayer97 said:Note too that QMac uses an open SQL database format. So, someone could theoretically develop a way to read that database for import into another program.
Again, QIF and OFX were created as financial transaction formats, not for making entire databases portable among different vendors systems. In any case, Intuit drove the creation of OFX/QFX to replace QIF, so why would Quicken want to now go back to the older and less-capable technology of QIF? They don't. And they won't.odysseus said:If OFX could be used to replace QIF as a file interchange format, than it would be *really* simple for Quicken to allow this, and they could presumably still charge the banks, no?
I'm sorry, but this isn't true.jacobs said:QIF was designed for importing transactions from financial institutions into Quicken.
jacobs said:not as a file transportability tool.
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If things change to the point that it's no longer possible to get data out of Quicken at all, then I'll be worried. But we're not there, and I don't see things getting any worse than they are right now, so it's just not something I can get worked up about. If that makes me shortsighted in your opinion, so be it.
The issue is not just about getting data out of QMac. The issue is about getting data out in a format that is usable to transfer into another financial program. CSV is not such a format.jacobs said:As I've mentioned, the ability to export all your transaction data from Quicken in CSV format exists. It seems like the escape path you're seeking already exists.
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Over in the Quicken Windows world where export/import of QIF is still "supported", it tends to be a major undertaking to actually try and get a good creation of a new data file from it.
As I see it in a lot of ways Quicken Mac users have a step up from what Quicken Windows users have.With all the shortcomings QIF is, it has still been used successfully to transfer data from Quicken to other programs, and even from other programs into Quicken. The problem right now is that there is nothing equivalent at the moment for QMac, which leaves some people feeling vulnerable.
You are proposing going from a standard (OFX is a standardized protocol) to QIF which isn't a standardized protocol. Not going to happen.odysseus said:My quote proposes that OFX could serve the same purpose as QIF, not that Quicken should return to QIF.