Allocate Utility Bill across two months?

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rdersch
rdersch Member ✭✭

My Utility provider (electricity) failed to bill me for one month. As such, the current month's bill is actually for usage across two months (November/December), BUT is to be paid in January of the following year. This creates an issue for my budgeted electricity usage for January, and December of the previous year records no electricity expense.

Is there a way to allocate a portion of the January payment to the December electricity expense, thus being an accurate representation of my usage and expense allocation.

I am using Quicken Classic for Personal & Business, Windows, (Canada), Version R53.26

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  • Quicken Kristina
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    Hello @rdersch,

    If you have rollover turned on (for 2023 and 2024), then the unused allocation from December should carry over to January. If you don't use rollover, another option is to manually edit your budget to account for one month being skipped and your bill in January being larger than usual as a result. To manually edit a category on your budget, hover your mouse over that category. An Edit button should appear at the far right.

    Click that Edit button and the Allocated Budget will become an editable textbox. Type in the new amount and click the save button.

    If you also want to add a note about what happened, you can click the gear icon (just to the left of the Allocated Budget amount), select Add a note to [month] budget, type in the note, then click OK.

    I hope this helps!

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  • rdersch
    rdersch Member ✭✭
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    Thanks Kristina, good explanation on the budget editing.

    I prepare very detailed budgets each year, and have two residences, one in the US and one in Canada, and I keep two Category groups and have nearly identical budget categories in each group.

    However, my query is regarding allocating an actual EXPENSE that is incurred in one month over two months. I will attempt to provide a more detailed example. I have received a utility bill for $200 which is due and payable in Jan/24. However, the bill represents $100 of expense from November/23 (which should have been paid in December/23 BUT the utility company failed to take the payment from an auto-pay), and $100 from December/23 which is due and payable in Jan/24.

    As such, my utility expense recorded for December/23 will be $0 (when it should actually be $100), and my Jan/24 expense will be recorded as $200 (when it should actually be $100). I was looking for a way to RECORD the payment of $200 in Jan/24, but ALLOCATE the expense as $100 December/23 and $100 Jan/24.

  • Quicken Kristina
    Quicken Kristina Moderator mod
    edited December 2023
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    Thank you for your reply,

    If I'm understanding correctly, you're wanting to make the actual expense match the allocation?

    Based on your example, if you already have it set up to show the allocated expense, then I'm assuming you'd already have the allocation as $100 per month. If that is the case, then the budget allocation would be $100 for Dec and $100 for Jan.

    Once the transaction reflecting the actual amount you paid is in your Quicken, then the budget will see the actual as $200 for Jan (and $0 for Dec, since it won't see any transaction for that month). Unless you use rollover, that would cause it to reflect as under budget in Dec (Allocated $100, Actual $0) and over budget in Jan (Allocated $100, Actual $200).

    Editing the actual transaction when it downloads (or if you manually input, putting in 2 transactions with one dated Dec and the other dated Jan) would force the Actual to match the Allocation. Or, it may be simpler just to add a note to your budget for those 2 months to explain why the allocation and actuals don't match.

    I hope this helps!

    Quicken Kristina

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  • Chris_QPW
    Chris_QPW Member ✭✭✭✭
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    Unless you are a business that is doing accrual accounting, you are working on a cash basis, which means that you pay bills when they come in, not when they are "posted". In other words, your Quicken transactions should reflect exactly what happened in the real world.

    Note if you are doing accrual accounting then someone that is using those such functions in the "Home & Business" will have to answer.

    Now from a budgeting standpoint, like @Quicken Kristina pointed out you might want to have the $100 for the first month "carryover" to the next month where you have the actual expense (provided there wasn't any expense in the first month). That is what the "rollover" setting does. If you don't have the rollover setting on, the $100 in the first month will not be added to the second month even if no expense in that first month.

    What that means in the real world, is that you have to make sure that you don't spend the $100 in that first month, just because it happens to be there since in reality it should be earmarked for paying the bill due in the next month.

    This isn't any different than handling something like having to pay auto insurance every 6 months. You can either budget it just like that as one payment every 6 months or as putting in 1/6 of the amount in every month and having the total rollover into the next month.

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  • Jim_Harman
    Jim_Harman SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you want to force your Quicken register to match your budget (not recommended) you could enter a bogus transaction in month 1 for the amount that should have been billed and paid that month, and the remainder in month 2, then match the two transactions with the full amount that downloads or appears on your statement in month 2. It will be as if you paid the bill with 2 checks, one in month 1 and one in month 2.

    If you do this, be sure to add notes to the transactions so you can remind yourself what happened.

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