zzz-Fidelity Updates

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  • Robert
    Robert Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 4

    I gave up and restored backup from before the [Removed - Language] transition. I'm now successful using the old connection now renamed zzz-fidelity. And it is no longer prompting me to transition to the new so-called improved method. Almost as if Quicken knows it is all messed up. I should know to delay transition to see if it seems to work before becoming their unwitting beta tester, but it didn't look like I had a choice. Why does quicken do these things at month end? Really messed up.

  • ishiver
    ishiver Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    edited August 4

    Downloads are coming through with a total of shares from 2008 and 2013 when the accounts were first open with a total # of shares that I own today. As such, it doubles the # of shares and inflates the value of the accounts. I tried to remove those shares since the download tool adds those shares but the remove shares feature does not change the total value for some reason. If I delete the add shares, the next download they appear again.

    How do I get rid of these add shares transactions with the new download feature. Yes I mapped/validate my accounts based on forced prompts to move to new download process. I prefer to go direct and not through quicken but was not offered a choice (yes I got the email in June).

  • User1811
    User1811 Quicken Windows Subscription Windows Beta Beta

    Thank you Krisina,

    I deactivated and reactivated my Fidelity accounts to update to the new download method. My NetBenefit accounts are still set to "Complete - Positions and Transactions". Since this is a know issue, I had already manually updated the missing transactions.

  • Chuck77
    Chuck77 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 4

    Failed AGAIN and losing faith in Quicken!

    Tried the account reset, went through the re-authorization and it corrupted the quotes, CDs and number of shares again!!!!

    Fell back to the backup, but will not touch any suggestions until fixed [Removed - Disruptive]

    No downloaded transactions or updates! [Removed - Rant]

  • Mark McIntyre
    Mark McIntyre Member ✭✭✭

    There are now 7 pages to this one thread and still NO acknowledgement by Quicken that this seems to be a royal screwup on a product that was improperly tested. The only advice given is "use a backup and we'll fix it later."

    When selling and managing a product whose sole purpose is to help them with their money, the bar for performance and reliability is should be VERY high. Quicken has fallen well below the goals of high reliability.

  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta

    The first paragraph is true, but there has also been interaction from Quicken staff, and indication that they are working on the issues.

    I agree that it should have been tested. Quicken has a well oiled beta testing process that would have caught this, had this migration been tested in a beta activity.

    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • Ray
    Ray Member ✭✭✭✭

    I searched for information on beta testers. I didn't find anything indication the program exists. From the dialog in this thread and
    Quicken Kristina
     Quicken Windows Subscription Moderatorencouraging us to report the issues with feedback, we appear to be the beta testers.

    I just spent 6+ hours fixing incorrect securities symbols from the download fiasco I reported False New Security & Matching Security Pop Up — Quicken. I thought I'd fixed them but found more.

    Frankly, I'm disgusted with Quicken for allowing this update to continue.

  • Quicken Kristina
    Quicken Kristina Quicken Windows Subscription Moderator mod

    Hello @Ray,

    Here is an article providing information on the Beta program:

    I hope this helps!

    Quicken Kristina

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  • Ray
    Ray Member ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. The page and the FAQ don't answer my questions. Is there a contact email or phone number?

  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta

    Bugs can and do happen with most products. That doesn't make the end user a tester.

    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • Bob.
    Bob. Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭

    to this extent it does

  • hbouska
    hbouska Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭

    FIDELITY ACCOUNTS ARE ALL INACCURATE ONCE I GAVE PERMISSION FOR FIDELITY TO SHARE MY DATA. ALL MY FIDELITY ACCOUNTS ARE WORTHLESS!!! I AM MANUALLY UPDATING THEM NOW UNTIL I THINK THIS IS FIXED. DON'T THINK I'LL RENEW AGAIN. THIS IS TOO FRUSTRATING.

  • EvDob
    EvDob Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭

    This dialog I got during One Step Update doesn't specify the account:

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  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta

    It is frustrating, although since I've been using Quicken successfully for more than 25 years, I'm not going to throw it out and cause myself a lot more work, over this one very annoying disastrous migration, which will get fixed eventually.

    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • leishirsute
    leishirsute Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 5

    My concern is what Quicken considers to be "fixed".

    Hopefully, fixed means that all features using EWC+ will work exactly the same as with the prior Fidelity DC connection.

    Deluxe R64.30, Windows 11 Pro

  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta
    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta
    edited August 5

    As I am sure you know, beta testing is when they roll it out to a subset of users with the intent of ironing out the bugs before release (which is what should have happened here but maybe it's not possible to do that with a financial institution connection method change). Since that isn't what happened here, this isn't beta testing and if it were, they would not be paying us to test it (referencing a comment made elsewhere).

    I also wish that when people start a new thread about an issue that has already been reported, the moderators would catch that. Having multiple threads about the same issues just makes it harder for Quicken staff to manage and pass on the issues being reported.

    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • Bob.
    Bob. Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭

    disagree. If things like 3 decimal places were not caught, it was not well beta tested. That should have been caught. As should the difficulty to postpone. So in effect we are finding the bugs and by definition are the beta testers.

    Enough. With any luck Fidelity will become functional again. And until folks like boatnmaniac report same I shall avoid the change.

    Question just came to mind:


    Sweep accounts can be checking accounts and they require direct connect to pay bills. I have never tried, but did that ever work with Fidelity and will it work again?


  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta

    It wasn't beta tested at all. That's the problem. Beta testers would have caught this immediately.

    You can use Quick Pay and Check Pay with Bank of America which uses EWC+ - I don't know if that answers your question. If it doesn't, hopefully someone else can answer your question. I have a Fidelity HSA and track the cash separately, but I pay all my medical bills by credit card and then reimburse myself from my HSA so I've never tried to use Quick Pay or Check Pay with it. The Quicken Bill Manager menu does appear to allow the HSA Cash account to be used as a bill payment account, but I'm not going to trying enabling it.

    You are correct that the traditional "Bill Pay" as well as many other important features don't work with EWC+. It was very frustrating when BofA switched to EWC+. Quick Pay and Check Pay are workarounds that have advantages but don't compensate for all that was taken away.

    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • leishirsute
    leishirsute Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 5

    One would hope that Quicken developers had arranged to have some Fidelity accounts for which they were able to have tested the migration and not just relied on those subscribers that have Fidelity accounts to uncover problems. Although, the latter seems to be the case.

    Deluxe R64.30, Windows 11 Pro

  • Eastwayroad
    Eastwayroad Quicken Windows Subscription Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 5

    [Removed - Off Topic]

  • BarryGraham
    BarryGraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member, Windows Beta Beta

    Nice job @Ray! Just be careful because many chatbots have been caught faking it, but this looks good.

    Since my DC copy is so old that it would require hours of data re-entry, I downloaded all the transactions into my 4 accounts, fixed the errors, and, to workaround the cash balance issue, I added the shares corresponding to the cash balance manually then set the price to zero in Holdings

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    (when you do this, the price is blank).

    so it doesn't skew the value of the account. I went to Online Center>Holdings and did "Compare to Portfolio" on all 4 accounts and they now match.

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    The odd this is that the unit price is still $1 even though I set it to zero earlier.

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    It will be interesting to see what happens the next time there are transactions to be downloaded.

    Barry Graham
    Quicken H&B Subscription
  • The Big Apple
    The Big Apple Quicken Windows Subscription Windows Beta Beta

    I saw an alert saying that they were pausing migration due to the issues. Has anyone tried to see if the DC options have returned as a connection type?

  • Quicken Jasmine
    Quicken Jasmine Quicken Mac Subscription Alumni ✭✭✭✭

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  • Mark McIntyre
    Mark McIntyre Member ✭✭✭

    I have yet to receive a response from Quicken to my response to them. I would appreciate a reply answering the questions and noting that there are many others experiencing big problems with the EWC+ and when they intend to fix the issue.

  • Ray
    Ray Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 5

    Be careful of the Compare to Portfolio. (Tools > Online Center > Holdings tab > Compare to Portfolio button.)

    I have 2 data files with 2 Fidelity IRA accounts each. Both continue using the "zzz - Fidelity" Direct Connect. I haven't been prompted to change to EWC+. Considering all the issues, I'll delay as long as I can.

    I download their holdings from Fidelity's website and comparing the symbol, shares, and value with those in Quickens Portfolio Value report. In the spreadsheet, I sorted by symbol and use a formula to compare them. I found several with symbols that didn't match. Compare Portfolio said everything matched even though some didn't.

    Schwab uses EWC+. I compared a Schwab account. The spreadsheet said they matched. Quickens Compare to Portfolio said they matched also.

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