zzz-Fidelity Updates
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As of Agust 9th, no changes or improvements. We have one of our Fidelity accounts that used to download from zzz-Fidelity Netbenefits now using the new EWC+ connection, still not downloading usable information. This morning we did our normal download for this 401K account and the downloaded transaction information was "contribution" with a dollar amount no other information. Two weeks ago prior to the transition the same download was FIDELITY 500 INDEX FUND with number of shares and cost per share. And when we "reconcile shares" says account is in agreement which is not accurate. Despite Quicken stopping and restarting the transition, see no indication there have been any improvements. We already submitted "Report a Problem" for this and the core cash handling that others have reported was broken. Would be great to see Quicken post actual progress on these topics with real world examples.
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Thank you for this update.
It really sounds like Fidelity and Quicken have greatly messed up on data mapping between the two using EWC+.
I am surprised that they plan to force clients to use a connection that introduces so many problems if they are not resolved by 8/20.
Deluxe R64.30, Windows 11 Pro
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After several days failing to carefully reestablish downloads from Fidelity to Quicken trying individual accounts one at a time I finally learned that one must deactivate ALL accounts at a given institution (Fidelity) FIRST. After that then adding the accounts back and matching them to the existing quicken accounts succeeds in re-connecting all Fidelity Accounts via Express Web Connect+ . This is a big step forward. BUT….still get mispriced TBills and CDs AND the widely reported rounding error in fractional shares.
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Since conversion to EWC+ no transactions have been downloading for me, I tried a backup of old DC method and correct transactions downloaded - but was so old that many of my other accounts had errors so cant use it. Anybody have any ideas on a fix?
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@Quicken Kristina Have Quicken and Fidelity agreed that the announced 8/20 date for mandatory cutover to EWC+ will be extended, since it is not possible to fix and verify all of these problems in 10 days?
If a new date has previously been announced and I missed it, I apologize for the bother.
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Just like @Just Me and Not Someone Else and others, I'm finding that no new transactions are being downloaded via the EWC+ connection and I made some trades on Thursday so I know there are some thought should be downloading. Has Fidelity halted the migration and stopped making transactions available, or is this just yet another bug?
If we have to reset the connection every day to get our transactions, this is an issue that needs to be fixed. It does work as a temporary workaround, it forces Quicken to download the most recent transactions. So this is another bug to add to the list - that new transactions can only be downloaded with EWC+ if you reset the connection.
Barry Graham
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Has anyone seen any new official updates from Quicken on these Fidelity problems? I see comments from almost a week ago that they are aware, but I haven't seen any improvements or updates. Perhaps they should have an official thread as a sticky with only their updates instead of having to search through multiple threads to see if they comment.
As Fidelity is one of the largest asset managers in the world and the largest 401(k) recordkeeper in the U.S., I would think this impacts many, if not most, Quicken users. I've been using Quicken since they were mailing floppy discs out in the mail and hate to leave, but this breaks everything I need them for.
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I would just like to know if there have been any successful migrations to EWC+ for Fidelity in which the behavior remained the same as for a DC connection. Or are these issues affecting everyone that has tried the migration.
Deluxe R64.30, Windows 11 Pro
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I, too, have an issue with Fidelity Investments downloads into my Quicken Classic Deluxe (Release R63.21) on Win11. When updating several days ago, hundreds of transactions came across in all of my 5 Fidelity accounts. All appeared to be blank except for the cash amount which changed the cash balance in my accounts (to incorrect amounts per Fidelity). I tried deleting the transactions in bulk but was not able to. Instead of deleting every blank transaction one by one, I reinstalled my most recent backup. Using it, there was no mass transactions downloads but also no actual trade transactions have downloaded since July 25. Other accounts are being updated (bank, credit card, etc). The problem is only in my Fidelity accounts. And, yes, I have deactivated my accounts and then reactivated and have also reset the accounts via the account details online services tab and reapproved Fidelity sharing data with Quicken - none of which corrected the problem. Quicken support, please resolve this issue asap.
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The only official update we have from Quicken is in this Alert
I think the Alert should be revised or updated to provide more information, either in the Alert itself or in a linked webpage:
For users who have changed to EWC+ and who have duplicate and incorrect transactions and share prices that have been downloaded over the past few days, will they have to correct these manually? What exactly should they do? Is reverting to a backup from before the problems began almost two weeks ago still the best approach?
For users who are still using Direct Connect for our Fidelity connection, will the prompt to reauthorize start being presented again at the start of a One Step Update? Will we still have the "Remind me next time" option?
Which items on the long list of problems should users expect to be resolved after they reconnect via EWC+? Which are still being worked on?
What should we do if we still see problems after reconnecting?
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Agreed. From my viewpoint and prior software development experience, there is no assurance to the end user that a methodical approach to resolving these issues is in place including keeping the end user informed of each issue and the progress of problem resolution for each issue. It really appears that the EWC+ migration was never tested prior to releasing it to the end user. Maybe because Quicken development had no Fidelity accounts of their own to test or did not make arrangements for test accounts with Fidelity. The end result is that it feels like the end user IS the testing ground.
Deluxe R64.30, Windows 11 Pro
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I have also been using Quicken since it was mailed out on floppy discs. The concept of this type of all-inclusive financial software that can consolidate financial information from many sources for us non-professional accountants is very appealing. I know of no other similar software. It does seem that security concerns, etc. in today's world are causing increasing difficulties for the Quicken team to work out with their financial institution sources and to keep up with. The most recent program update caused problems in the tax planner for paycheck tracking. This bug required rollback to previous program version and a pause on installing any new updates. And the recent tax law changes in the "BB bill" are still not included in tax planner. No word on when any of these fixes will occur. And, like all software these days, continued access to Quicken now requires an ongoing paid subscription. I fear that if enough of us loyal users become discouraged by the lack of functioning program updates and ongoing difficulties with connection to financial institutions the survival of Quicken may be at risk.
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I cutover to EWC+ several days back. I have since reverted back to my Fidelity DC connection. Spent too many hours looking into the errors with Cash security conversion issue, CD pricing issue, hundreds of duplicate transactions across 6 accounts, all of which were described earlier by others.
The CD pricing issue blew up all my charts related to Net-worth and Investment Performance for the Month of July, by several million dollars….
I will wait till a forced conversion in a week or two.
BTW, has anyone figured out what "fix-it flow" is, quoted by a few Quicken admins? Seems like it's not defined.
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Agree with everything you said. I'd like some feedback from Quicken to users on how to proceed. Do I just keep downloading (in my case) CD prices that are wrong and leave them? Should I manually fix them daily so I don't have to do so many when this is corrected? Do I need to go back and adjust the quantity somehow so my balances are right with the wrong prices?
My hope is they can start to resolve everyone's issues going forward as well as correct pricing/quantity issues going backwards to when we first cutover.
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BTW, has anyone figured out what "fix-it flow" is, quoted by a few Quicken admins? Seems like it's not defined.
This is apparently terminology that is familiar to Support and others inside Quicken. I have been trying to get the Admins to clarify the Alert, with limited success. The latest update now says
The Fidelity cut-over migration has resumed. Users can now reconnect their accounts using either the
Fix Itflow or theAdd Accountflow.Fix It Flow:
When an error is received during a One Step Update, aFix Itbutton will appear in the One Step Update Summary. Click theFix Itbutton and follow the prompts to reconnect your Fidelity account.Add Account Flow:
Alternatively, you can reconnect by deactivating and reactivating the account via Add Account. Pleasefollow the steps exactly as outlinedin thissupport articleto ensure a successful reconnection.Thank you for your continued patience while we worked with our service provider and Fidelity to address the reported issues.
For other EWC+ accounts, I think this appears if the account needs to be reauthorized, but I have not seen any reports of Fidelity customers seeing or clicking on a "Fix it" button.
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Thank you for sharing the alert again. I have sent this over to my team to see about updating the alert with your suggested revisions!
-Quicken Jasmine
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How did you get it not to switch to Simple Tracking when you switched back to Direct Connect. Did you restore a backup?
Barry Graham
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The longer this goes on, the happier I am that I bit the bullet, restored from a backup from before my forced conversion to EWC that was filled will errors and then reconnected to the renamed "zzz - Fidelity DC" connection. Since then downloads have been working normally and everything is fine.
And I am sure I will now be one of the last to convert to the new connection after I see lots of posts of successful transitions. I have been burned by Quicken before and generally decline all updates until I am forced to change so that I won't be an uncompensated beta-tester. This time I thought I had no choice and I bit the bullet and regretted it almost immediately. Lesson learned once again. Always wait until Quicken actually works out the bugs.
And I continue to be perplexed why Quicken releases major changes at month end when will get lots of transactions. There should be a freeze on changes after the 20th of the month that lasts until the 5th of the next month (or something in that range). Exception only for limited fixes on major bugs impacting lots of people.
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Hello All,
Over the past few years, several large investment firms have moved their connections to EWC+, which, once fully implemented, functions the same as Direct Connect.
Each firm’s transition may include unique challenges, and occasional issues can occur during the process. To ensure a smooth implementation, Fidelity began their migration in phases, starting with an optional migration period in late July.
At this time, Fidelity has paused the migration for additional users while both their team and ours work to resolve the issues that have been identified. Throughout this process, Fidelity has been a strong partner to Quicken and continues to work diligently to address customer concerns as they arise.
Quicken Kristina
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Well that's good news. Apparently no fixed date for change over until things get worked out. Just continue with the DC process.
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@Quicken Kristina This is a reassuring message. Has the 8/20 mandatory migration date been delayed to a new date?
Deluxe R64.30, Windows 11 Pro
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People: COULD EVERYONE PLEASE STOP ASKING WHEN THIS WILL BE FIXED? MY MAILBOX IS CLOGGED WITH DUPLICATE QUERIES… Give them a chance to work it out and let us know.
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That's good to know, because banks didn't function the same as Direct Connect when they migrated. We lost eBills and online payment with Bank of America when they switched to EWC+
Barry Graham
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Turn off your email notifications. Problem solved.
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Hi @BarryGraham
I created a copy of my working file and used that to reconnect my Fidelity accounts with EWC+.
When I reverted back, I used my original working file that was DC to Fidelity. Complete Investing selection remained as it was before.. I didn't disconnect the accounts and all seems to be working okay. I received just a couple of DIV transactions in the reverted file.
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Hello @leishirsute & @BrittMayo,
The last update we received is that the cutoff is still tentatively set for 20 Aug.
To stop the flood of notifications, you may want to mute this discussion and bookmark the alert (if you haven't done so already). For information on muting a discussion, please see this announcement:
Here's the link to the Community Alert, if needed:
I hope this helps!
Quicken Kristina
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Yes, that's the best way.
Barry Graham
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@Quicken Kristina @Quicken Jasmine
Can you please have your engineers explain how the connection to Fidelity accounts can still be this much of a horrendous mess almost two weeks later? Why hasn't this clear debacle of a change been backed out?
On one of my Fidelity accounts, I can get some transactions to download if I explicitly "Reset Account." But on none of my accounts can I get security transactions to download, such as Sold/SoldX/Bought/BoughtX,ReinvDiv, etc. Even adding these accounts into a fresh test file brings in no data — not even the few transactions that "ResetAccount" manages to find in my original data file. It also asks me to provide the cash balance in every account, data that should already be in the feed.
This is clearly utterly and completely broken. I spoke at length with Quicken escalated phone support last week, and they haven't even acknowledged a bug much less contacted me again with any kind of resolution. I also spoke at length with Fidelity's electronic channel support team, and they assure me that nothing has changed on their end with the way they send data to Quicken. They said that Quicken internally has acknowledged to them that there is a problem on the Quicken side and that they will stop telling users to escalate to Fidelity.
We need real information from Quicken engineering — the radio silence on the problem is unacceptable. Your post at least acknowledges the problem vaguely — but that is woefully insufficient. The switch to EWC+ for Fidelity needs to be immediately reverted to DC until such time as Quicken has properly tested things. It's obvious this migration was in no way tested — it's frankly mind-boggling how bad this is. As a software engineer myself, this kind of effect on a production system would be cause for heads to roll, honestly. I cannot fathom how this got approved without real testing, and even less why you haven't backed it out long ago.
All the complaints about users being treated as beta testers are dead on. For years I have resisted dropping Quicken because of the enormous pain it would cause me in the migration of years of data. But stuff like this may finally compel me to do so.
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