Quicken 2007 data file does not AutoSave a copy in OS Sierra 10.12.6

Debbie

I have two Quicken 2007 data files. I am running Mac OS Sierra 10.12.6  and starting today, one data file (my business finances) will autosave a backup upon quitting, but the other data file (my home finances) is unable to autosave a backup upon quitting. Both data files are using the same version of Quicken 16.2.4, and both are used on the same machine, but of course not at the same time, since only one data file can be open at a time. Any thoughts? Should I re-index the offending data file? And, here's an odd coincidence. I just today, purchased and downloaded Quicken 2019 for Mac to use on a different machine - to test it out on my home finances. Does Quicken somehow know this? ;-)

smayer97

Odd behaviour. Do you get any error messages? Indexing never does any damage unless the file has internal damage. You can also try Save a Copy from the file menu, which can clean up the internal database.

If you choose to re-index, make sure you have a reliable backup copy with no issues beforehand.

And no, a the new version has no impact on the old. They run completely independently

As for the new subscription to Quicken for Mac, I suggest that you make sure that it will meet your needs, since it is not an upgrade from QM2007 but rather from Quicken Essentials (which was re-written from the ground up, starting in 2010, then continued with QM2015 onward), so there are some features that are still not there e.g. full loan amortization*, 2-line display, QuickMath, or are not as fully developed yet, e.g. Customized Reports, performance reports and stats (therefore some data may not carry over). You can start here:

https://www.quicken.com/mac/upgrader-compare

*NOTE: Support for fixed rate loans has been released as of  QM2017 v4.5.x but there is no announced timing for support for variable rate or simple daily interest loans.

Currently, the main advantages of subscription to Quicken for Mac over QM2007 include the ability to sync cash, bank, and credit card accounts using Quicken Mobile for mobile devices (iOS and Android) and the ability to save receipts with transactions via computer or mobile device. There are a few other minor features that QM2007 does not have. Note that online access is supposed to continue as long as the FI/Bank supports it and their security updates don't prevent it.

You may want to review the List of Obstacles and Hindrances for Migrating from QM2007 or QWin to Quicken for Mac. 

Add your vote to any features that are missing for you. Your VOTES matter!

Be aware of data that will and will not carry forward: 

https://www.quicken.com/support/what-data-gets-carried-over

Then look at the updates since the original release here:

https://www.quicken.com/support/2018-release-quicken-mac-release-notes

You will also want to look at a more detailed comparison done by a SuperUser which also identifies nuances not mentioned elsewhere (and read on for comments from other users too on that same discussion thread): 

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/17308705#Comment_17308705

Take a look at the following videos to give you a better idea:

https://www.youtube.com/user/QuickenMac

Note that there are many differences that are rather subtle, that are not necessarily identifiable via documentation, for example, the 12-month budget feature does not allow including transfers, including investment income, selecting specific accounts, etc.

If you find that subscription to Quicken for Mac does not meet your needs, the alternative is to continue to run QM2007 Lion Compatible (LC), which will run on Mac OS X 10.6.8 to 10.14 Mojave (so far*), though be aware that is probably will stop working on the next version of macOS in the Fall of 2019 (the alternative would be to use a virtual machine). 

* See Is Quicken for Mac 2007 (QM2007) Compatible with High Sierra (macOS 10.13)? 

(Reports show that QM2007 works on High Sierra but automatic backups do not seem to work, at least when using the new APFS drive format... but is ok with the HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) format on the boot drive only, NOT on external drives)

* You may also want to follow the discussion Is Quicken for Mac 2007 Compatible with Mojave (macOS 10.14)?

(Hint: Same results as with High Sierra, macOS 10.13)

smayer97

Odd behaviour. Do you get any error messages? Indexing never does any damage unless the file has internal damage. You can also try Save a Copy from the file menu, which can clean up the internal database.

If you choose to re-index, make sure you have a reliable backup copy with no issues beforehand.

And no, a the new version has no impact on the old. They run completely independently

As for the new subscription to Quicken for Mac, I suggest that you make sure that it will meet your needs, since it is not an upgrade from QM2007 but rather from Quicken Essentials (which was re-written from the ground up, starting in 2010, then continued with QM2015 onward), so there are some features that are still not there e.g. full loan amortization*, 2-line display, QuickMath, or are not as fully developed yet, e.g. Customized Reports, performance reports and stats (therefore some data may not carry over). You can start here:

https://www.quicken.com/mac/upgrader-compare

*NOTE: Support for fixed rate loans has been released as of  QM2017 v4.5.x but there is no announced timing for support for variable rate or simple daily interest loans.

Currently, the main advantages of subscription to Quicken for Mac over QM2007 include the ability to sync cash, bank, and credit card accounts using Quicken Mobile for mobile devices (iOS and Android) and the ability to save receipts with transactions via computer or mobile device. There are a few other minor features that QM2007 does not have. Note that online access is supposed to continue as long as the FI/Bank supports it and their security updates don't prevent it.

You may want to review the List of Obstacles and Hindrances for Migrating from QM2007 or QWin to Quicken for Mac. 

Add your vote to any features that are missing for you. Your VOTES matter!

Be aware of data that will and will not carry forward: 

https://www.quicken.com/support/what-data-gets-carried-over

Then look at the updates since the original release here:

https://www.quicken.com/support/2018-release-quicken-mac-release-notes

You will also want to look at a more detailed comparison done by a SuperUser which also identifies nuances not mentioned elsewhere (and read on for comments from other users too on that same discussion thread): 

https://community.quicken.com/discussion/comment/17308705#Comment_17308705

Take a look at the following videos to give you a better idea:

https://www.youtube.com/user/QuickenMac

Note that there are many differences that are rather subtle, that are not necessarily identifiable via documentation, for example, the 12-month budget feature does not allow including transfers, including investment income, selecting specific accounts, etc.

If you find that subscription to Quicken for Mac does not meet your needs, the alternative is to continue to run QM2007 Lion Compatible (LC), which will run on Mac OS X 10.6.8 to 10.14 Mojave (so far*), though be aware that is probably will stop working on the next version of macOS in the Fall of 2019 (the alternative would be to use a virtual machine). 

* See Is Quicken for Mac 2007 (QM2007) Compatible with High Sierra (macOS 10.13)? 

(Reports show that QM2007 works on High Sierra but automatic backups do not seem to work, at least when using the new APFS drive format... but is ok with the HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) format on the boot drive only, NOT on external drives)

* You may also want to follow the discussion Is Quicken for Mac 2007 Compatible with Mojave (macOS 10.14)?

(Hint: Same results as with High Sierra, macOS 10.13)

Debbie

No error messages, and yes, very odd behavior. I will try "save a copy" from the file menu, while in the offending Quicken data file.

I hear you about Quicken 2019 missing some features that Quicken 2007 has. One I do miss is the two line register view/display. I've checked out the other threads for the past few years, and will do so again. Thank you very much!

jacobs

@Debbie, the absence of the two-line register format is often pretty jarring to users migrating from Quicken Mac 2007 -- I know it was to me initially. I'd encourage you to keep an open mind about it and try it for awhile before deciding you don't like it. I've found there are a number of benefits, including the ability to customize my registers they way I like them by showing/hiding any column, rearranging column order, and tweaking column width. I also find it easier to scroll and visually skim up and down a screen looking for a specific piece of data because there aren't alternating rows of different data; when I return to Quicken 2007's two-line display, I actually find it harder to work with now. But I didn't feel that way initially; it took using it awhile for me to come around.

That all said, there are certainly other users who have asked for a two-line register option. You can go to this Idea thread and cast your vote in favor of this functionality. (Scroll down until you see the blue box; then click the little arrow under the number.) The product manager has said that building a 2-line register in the current Mac programming environment would be pretty labor-intensive, and I think they've been focusing their big development efforts on building functionality which is completely missing rather than offering refinements and options to the interface -- but the more people who ask for it, the more likely they will decide to do it some day.