Canadian mortgage amortization (6 Legacy Votes)

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How about adding Canadian mortgage amortization functionality to Quicken for Mac 2018! We had it for Quicken for Mac 2007. Now over 10 years ago! Really?
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  • mshiggins
    mshiggins Quicken Windows 2017 SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Can you explain how a Canadian mortgage differs from a US mortgage?

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  • Unknown
    Unknown Member
    edited April 2018
    Mostly in term of duration I believe. 2, 3, and 5 year terms are common in Canada but payments are amortized over 25 years (mostly, but can be as long as 30 years). The result is the mortgage needs to be refinanced at the end of term at a then prevailing interest rate. Unlike a US mortgage that might match term and amortization proving more certainty of payments and principal balances from time to time.
  • smayer97
    smayer97 Quicken Mac Other SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    I believe there is also a difference in the way interest is calculated, e.g. compounded vs not, or periods used for compounding.

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  • Unknown
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    edited April 2018
    Not certain about in the US but in Canada mortgage interest is calculated semi-annually. So one must calculate an effective rate of interest that matches the payment frequency. This was all done (calculated automatically) in Quicken for Mac 2007. It would be great if this was programmed in to Quicken for Mac 2018. Please!
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  • smayer97
    smayer97 Quicken Mac Other SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2020
    This is absolutely needed. Because this is a request for a Canadian specific feature you should not expect a lot of votes to show up BUT this is about accurate calculation. It was available in QM2007 and earlier. It should be re-implemented. We Canadians need accurate mortgage calculations too, regardless of the number of votes. This affects ALL Canadian users that record mortgages in QMac.

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  • TommyFM
    TommyFM Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    I can't believe this doesn't exist already. It's basic functionality. If you're going to market a Canadian financial product, it absolutely should reflect Canadian standards. To say that more "votes" are required before core functionality is even considered for introduction into a product is ridiculous.

    This is a significant flaw in the product, not merely a suggestion for potential improvement.
  • UKR
    UKR Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll add my 2cents (US) ...
    I think it would be a helpful addition to our Canadian customers' Quicken versions, both Mac and Windows, if the Loan Wizard would correctly support the specifics of a Canadian mortgage.

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  • Quicken is sold in Canada and I would expect that it's Canadian version contains the features matching the Canadian market. Selling the US version just rebranded is wrong. The mortgage issue is just one. To this date Canadian version doesn't support multi currency that is very common for Canadian users. Charging the full value and labeling basic functionalities as the "ideas" for enhancement is wrong.
  • smayer97
    smayer97 Quicken Mac Other SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meanwhile, be sure to add your vote above if you have not already.

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  • rbeaulne
    rbeaulne Quicken Canada Subscription Member
    I purchase this software to do all of my banking. I just renewed my mortgage and noticed that Quicken doesn't calculate or even offer the option for accelerated payments.
    Canadians should be getting this software at a discounted prices as we cannot do the same as our US neighbors.
    How many other features are not accurate for Canadians?
    Please have this issue moved back up to get looked at and fixed.
  • Shawnsky
    Shawnsky Quicken Canada Subscription Member ✭✭
    A year later... hey, I am looking at least for a work around for the mortgage issue (just was able to secure one. Yea!) until it is fixed for Canadian mortgages.
  • lbgraham
    lbgraham Quicken Windows Subscription Member
    There are plenty of us down here in the US who also have Canadian mortgages we’d like to track. Please reconsider making this available to us.
  • Kumar H
    Kumar H Quicken Mac Subscription Member ✭✭
    Why is there still no solution for Canadian mortgages for Quicken for MAC?
  • NotACPA
    NotACPA Quicken Windows Subscription SuperUser ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kumar H said:
    Why is there still no solution for Canadian mortgages for Quicken for MAC?

    We're other users ... and have no info that would allow us to answer "Why" type questions.

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  • jacobs
    jacobs Quicken Mac Subscription SuperUser, Mac Beta Beta
    @Kumar H I'm still not clear on what specific functionality is required for Canadian mortgages. However, I think manually managing a mortgage in Quicken is, while not ideal, not too difficult. Assuming you get an amortization schedule from your bank, or can generate on from a website for calculating Canadian montage amortization, print out the schedule. 

    in Quicken, create a liability account for your loan, with the opening balance being the loan amount or current balance. In your checking account, enter a transaction for your monthly payment, with split lines for interest expense and a transfer to the liability account (the principal payment amount). Click on this transaction and create it as a scheduled monthly transaction. Each month, you'll click on the next scheduled (gray) transaction in your register and click "Paid". Each month, or every few months, double click on each loan payment transaction in your register and edit the split amount per the amortization schedule. Yes, this takes a few seconds per month rather than having Quicken calculate the correct value for you automatically — but in about 5 minutes per year, you're tracking your interest payments and outstanding loan balance in Quicken. 
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