Add values of hidden investment accounts to investment graphs (11 Legacy Votes)

I don't see why this issue would be archived and tossed. Some issues like this don't inspire more comments on this forum because it's a simple ask and there's not much more to add. That doesn't mean there's a lack of interest in seeing the idea implemented.

I think Quicken Mac needs the functionality Quicken Sangeetha described being in Quicken Windows: a checkbox in the Portfolio window to show/hide hidden accounts. I say that because having hidden accounts show up just in the chart (as this thread is requesting), but not in the list of holdings as of a specific date would be misleading and inconsistent. If I tell a Portfolio window to show my holdings as of 12/31/2009, it should automatically (or optionally via a checkbox I can check) show me all my holdings as of that date, including accounts which are now closed or hidden -- in both the chart and the list of holdings. If you're looking at historical data, you generally want to see what was the case back then, not see an incomplete picture because an account that was open then is closed/hidden now.

In Quicken Mac, the option for hiding an account is "Hide in Lists". Quicken Help defines this as "Hidden within sidebar" and "Hidden from transaction entry lists" -- exactly what you'd want and expect when you mark and account Hide in Lists. But that's not what Quicken Mac does; it also hides these accounts from the Portfolio view. This makes to Portfolio history inaccurate and in many cases worthless if the user has moved funds from one brokerage to another -- all the history from the former brokerages is absent from the Portfolio view. If I set my portfolio to 12/31/2010, I expect it to show me my holdings and history as of that date, but it does not. Please implement a fix so the historical information can be viewed accurately.

Quicken Sarah said:

Hello @jacobs & @Snoopy FC

I brought this thread up with the Mac team this morning to look into this request a little deeper and during our review, it does appear that closed and/or hidden accounts do retain the investment history.

Could you please provide a little more detail and perhaps screenshots of this request so that we might understand better what is missing?

As I wrote in the other thread linked above, Quicken Mac provides the option for accounts to "Hide in Lists". Quicken Help defines this as "Hidden within sidebar" and "Hidden from transaction entry lists" -- exactly what you'd want and expect when you mark an account "Hide in Lists." But that's not what Quicken Mac currently does; it also hides these accounts from the Portfolio view. This makes the Portfolio history inaccurate, and in many cases worthless. If the user has moved funds from one brokerage to another, all the history from the former brokerages is absent from the Portfolio view.

@Quicken Sarah  the screen shots from "@Snoopy FC" illustrate the issue. I can provide more if this is not clear enough to the development team.

If I set my portfolio to 12/31/2010, I expect it to show me my holdings and history as of that date. It does not. It should be the same as a Net Worth report for that date -- but it is not.

And it's not just the graph that's wrong; the table below the graph, whether Grouped By Account or Grouped By Security, also excludes the data from accounts which are set to Hide in Lists. That is, if I set my Portfolio date to 12/31/2010 and set the filter to Group by Security, I'd expect to see my security holdings as of that date, but Quicken omits any securities which were held in accounts marked as Hide in Lists. If I set the filter to Group by Account, the accounts I held as of that date which are marked as Hide in Lists are absent.

Hide in Lists is doing much more than what it's defined to do: remove the account from the sidebar and transaction dropdown menus; it is completely hiding the history of those accounts and the securities they held from the Portfolio. This behavior is not expected. I think the overwhelming majority of users would want the Portfolio "as of" date to accurately show their holdings as of that date. (If there is a narrow use case where a user might want to intentionally hide the history of closed accounts — perhaps data was recorded incorrectly and never corrected, so they just want to be able to hide it — there might be a reason to offer an option for the current hidden history behavior. But it should be able to be turned off, and shouldn't even be the default behavior.