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D H... This thread is specifically for issues related to the new release.D H Grif said:It would be very helpful to be able to printout the investments. On my 2017 for Mac the printer icon is grayed out in investments.
Read the last paragraph...it is explained there.David Chen said:How can I get this update? It says my Quicken 2017 4.4.3 is the newest available.
I was prompted to update to 4.5, but I clicked Remind Me Later in order to backup my application and data file. However, clicking "Check for Updates..." says that I am up-to-date.
I could really use a bug fix in the release. The split transaction bug where the total changes is something I run into a lot. The fixes for when editing split transactions will be most welcome as well.
Thanks!
@David Chen: The way Quicken's staged releases work, they allow a certain number (typically 2,000, I think) users to get the update, then turn it off and wait a few days to see if those users report problems. Then, typically, they release it for everyone. Since this v4.5 release contains some major changes, they may do two or three small releases to 2,000 customers at a time. This is all in an effort to try to avoid a release with a significant problem getting pushed out to everyone.David Chen said:How can I get this update? It says my Quicken 2017 4.4.3 is the newest available.
I was prompted to update to 4.5, but I clicked Remind Me Later in order to backup my application and data file. However, clicking "Check for Updates..." says that I am up-to-date.
I could really use a bug fix in the release. The split transaction bug where the total changes is something I run into a lot. The fixes for when editing split transactions will be most welcome as well.
Thanks!
@qmac_scott: Maybe Marcus or someone else who's tested it extensively will say otherwise, but I would think you could use the new loans feature for an auto loan, since it's basically the same as a fixed-rate mortgage with a starting balance, a fixed rate, and a set number of monthly payments. I think Marcus was indicating that in this first release, the loans features doesn't deal with *all* types of loans well or at all, such as variable rate loans, school loans where you incur the debt but don't begin paying back for awhile, or with personal loans you make to family or friends.qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
Yes, I thought that at first as well, but then I did a few seconds of research and it seems that some types of loans (like auto loans) amortize interest differently. But it's very possible I may be wrong.qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
As for searching in hidden accounts, you can add your VOTE to Add Option to Search in Hidden Account Registers.qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
Can you provide a screenshot of the loan details window so we can see what your talking about?Thomas said:When I updated to 4.5.1 I immediately started to use the new loan feature. I ran into some major problems where i could no longer launch the application until i used a backup of my current Quicken file. I assume it became corrupt and caused the crash. Once i started fresh I was able to repeat my steps and continue. I did run into an issue where i could only use “Years” for loan length. When ever I would try another unit no matter how many months it would force the loan to be paid off in 1 year. ie i selected 120 months which should have been 10 years. It would set up payments such that it would be paid off in 1 year. I had to select 10 years in order for the payments to actually be displayed as 10 years. This was with a loan type “Loan”. I also tried 120 payments but with same results.
Quicken froze on me too when I was setting up a new loan. It appeared to happen when I used the pencil to edit the payment info. I was able to quit the application via force quit. When I restarted Quicken it took a while for the program to restart. When the program loaded, it was in a frozen state and I could not do anything. After a few tries, I noticed the menu bar was active. I was able to navigate to Accounts/Delete Account. The account was deleted and everything appears to be ok.Thomas said:When I updated to 4.5.1 I immediately started to use the new loan feature. I ran into some major problems where i could no longer launch the application until i used a backup of my current Quicken file. I assume it became corrupt and caused the crash. Once i started fresh I was able to repeat my steps and continue. I did run into an issue where i could only use “Years” for loan length. When ever I would try another unit no matter how many months it would force the loan to be paid off in 1 year. ie i selected 120 months which should have been 10 years. It would set up payments such that it would be paid off in 1 year. I had to select 10 years in order for the payments to actually be displayed as 10 years. This was with a loan type “Loan”. I also tried 120 payments but with same results.
You are correct. the compounding period can be different with a simple interest loan (auto or personal loan) vs. mortgage.qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
@qmac_scott - Although the release notes specify fixed rate mortgages for the first iteration, on the loan details screen, there is a drop down that allows you to select different loan types. The options are: Auto, Commercial, Construction, Consumer, Home Equity, Loan, Military, Mortgage, SMB and Student.qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough above. Yes, as @J. Holmes says, there is a menu of loan types you can select. But I don't know if there's any difference in the way these loan types behave. Each one allows you to define the same loan parameters: original balance, current balance, loan length (in years, months, weeks, or payments), interest rate, either starting or ending date, the compounding period (monthly, annual, daily or none) and the payment schedule (monthly, semi-monthly, biweekly, and more).qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
@smayer97, thanks for the voting page tip. The suggestion on that page of simply adding a "show hidden" check box next to the filter bar of the All Transactions window is perfect.qmac_scott said:The mortgage loan feature will be VERY much appreciated! Is there a timeline for when we will see other simple loan types supported (in particular: auto loans)?
Also, is there any chance you've added some way to search all transactions (including hidden accounts)? Very frequently I am trying to find history of some old purchase in an account I no longer use (so it is hidden). An option to temporarily show hidden account in the "All Transactions" window would allow this.
Thanks for the hard work adding these new features!
I could not reproduce the exact same problem but still something quirky happening. I will send 3 screen captures. The first screen capture is when I initially view the information “Edit Loan and Payment Terms” . The second capture shows me converting the 9 years to 108 months, I then save and close. I then went in a third time and the screen was the third photo, 9 months. I change the months to years but the total is also $0. I click the pencil the amount shows up and then I can save.Thomas said:When I updated to 4.5.1 I immediately started to use the new loan feature. I ran into some major problems where i could no longer launch the application until i used a backup of my current Quicken file. I assume it became corrupt and caused the crash. Once i started fresh I was able to repeat my steps and continue. I did run into an issue where i could only use “Years” for loan length. When ever I would try another unit no matter how many months it would force the loan to be paid off in 1 year. ie i selected 120 months which should have been 10 years. It would set up payments such that it would be paid off in 1 year. I had to select 10 years in order for the payments to actually be displayed as 10 years. This was with a loan type “Loan”. I also tried 120 payments but with same results.
The opening loan balance is 2012.84, the original balance is 2012.84..This is a new loan, you are making your first payment yes? If you simply change item 3 from months to years you should be ok..Note you show a maturity date of 4/9/26 which does not make sense non a 9 mo loan. Unless I am not understanding what you are trying to do which is quite possible:)Thomas said:When I updated to 4.5.1 I immediately started to use the new loan feature. I ran into some major problems where i could no longer launch the application until i used a backup of my current Quicken file. I assume it became corrupt and caused the crash. Once i started fresh I was able to repeat my steps and continue. I did run into an issue where i could only use “Years” for loan length. When ever I would try another unit no matter how many months it would force the loan to be paid off in 1 year. ie i selected 120 months which should have been 10 years. It would set up payments such that it would be paid off in 1 year. I had to select 10 years in order for the payments to actually be displayed as 10 years. This was with a loan type “Loan”. I also tried 120 payments but with same results.
Sorry for the confusion, screen capture 2 shows that I set the loan length to 108 months. I then clicked on Save. I re-opened the loan details window and what i got is what you see on the third capture. The application changed it to 9 months and the 3 fields Principle, interest and Total are now blank.Thomas said:When I updated to 4.5.1 I immediately started to use the new loan feature. I ran into some major problems where i could no longer launch the application until i used a backup of my current Quicken file. I assume it became corrupt and caused the crash. Once i started fresh I was able to repeat my steps and continue. I did run into an issue where i could only use “Years” for loan length. When ever I would try another unit no matter how many months it would force the loan to be paid off in 1 year. ie i selected 120 months which should have been 10 years. It would set up payments such that it would be paid off in 1 year. I had to select 10 years in order for the payments to actually be displayed as 10 years. This was with a loan type “Loan”. I also tried 120 payments but with same results.
I just simulated what you did, set up the same loan values, three iterations , I got the same result, looks like a bit of a bug. What I found interesting is that the first two scenarios I had to go to bill reminders to save the event, In item 3 it allowed me to save this w/o going to bill reminder.Thomas said:When I updated to 4.5.1 I immediately started to use the new loan feature. I ran into some major problems where i could no longer launch the application until i used a backup of my current Quicken file. I assume it became corrupt and caused the crash. Once i started fresh I was able to repeat my steps and continue. I did run into an issue where i could only use “Years” for loan length. When ever I would try another unit no matter how many months it would force the loan to be paid off in 1 year. ie i selected 120 months which should have been 10 years. It would set up payments such that it would be paid off in 1 year. I had to select 10 years in order for the payments to actually be displayed as 10 years. This was with a loan type “Loan”. I also tried 120 payments but with same results.
The button you point to does nothing, I checked it in 4.4.3. I set the budget date back to March clicked on your button ,nothing.Thomas said:There are problems with the buttons for the Budget. See screen capture with notes. If you click the center button it does not give you the view of current month/year but for me it set it to Jan/2016. After many clicks to get to todays date, if I leave the budget screen and go to anything else say Home Screen then come back the right button sets it to March/2016
This is what I have found, I created a new budget thinking there was a problem with the old budget. My new budget starts jan 1 2017. While in the 1 month view I select the current month say May, if i click the middle button it takes me to the first month of my budget. I don't recall it working this way. The other problem is that if I close and reopen the application if my 1 month view was on May 2017 it defaults back to Jan 2017. It appears to go back to the first month. This can get annoying at the end of the year as it will take many clicks to get to December.Thomas said:There are problems with the buttons for the Budget. See screen capture with notes. If you click the center button it does not give you the view of current month/year but for me it set it to Jan/2016. After many clicks to get to todays date, if I leave the budget screen and go to anything else say Home Screen then come back the right button sets it to March/2016